imantsk1 Posted December 15, 2021 #26 Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 11:27 AM, pmmailmate said: I've read time and time again that verification isn't a necessity... Heck, even 11 days ago it was written in the Telegram VIP Notices chat that - "Please note that verification is completely optional and if you choose to not verify you will not receive less. You will continue to receive the standard bonus amounts." But then today, I get an email saying "We have currently placed your account into withdraw-only mode"  What the fuck is up with that? Not once have I made a deposit or a withdrawal directly to or from any exchange from a banned country (Like Australia or United Kingdom). Always from/to my own exodus wallet. I have wagered $131,239,065 in the last month and a half. You'd think it would be completely understandable why I'd like to retain my privacy. I think this is absolute bullshit.   I agree, its the regulation, the main reason might be to check who you are, are you on watchlist in Interpol or have International records in some database, if Stake does not have a proof that they have been doing checks on you guys it would loose its licence pretty fast. The Gambling Authorithies can make checks on anyone.
htsderez Posted December 15, 2021 #27 Posted December 15, 2021 Thats the problem with stake, they say 1 thing and then make a total 180, basically lying to us.
pmmailmate Posted December 15, 2021 Author #28 Posted December 15, 2021 I reluctantly disclosed my true identity to the KYC team. I swear to god if someone tries to ransack my home or kidnap me in the next few months, however, I know who to blame!
ericd1995 Posted December 15, 2021 #29 Posted December 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, pmmailmate said: I reluctantly disclosed my true identity to the KYC team. I swear to god if someone tries to ransack my home or kidnap me in the next few months, however, I know who to blame! I’m glad it worked out for you
htsderez Posted December 15, 2021 #30 Posted December 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, pmmailmate said: I reluctantly disclosed my true identity to the KYC team. I swear to god if someone tries to ransack my home or kidnap me in the next few months, however, I know who to blame! Lets wait for the next strike when they want you to confirm address and even worse level 4 , proof of payments (basically where the money is coming from).
pmmailmate Posted December 15, 2021 Author #31 Posted December 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, htsderez said: Lets wait for the next strike when they want you to confirm address and even worse level 4 , proof of payments (basically where the money is coming from). Thankfully in my case it's all coming from them.
Moderator ROkenTratENsaV Posted December 15, 2021 Moderator #32 Posted December 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, pmmailmate said: I reluctantly disclosed my true identity to the KYC team. I swear to god if someone tries to ransack my home or kidnap me in the next few months, however, I know who to blame! I hope they can approve your KYC fast as i have heard it has taken weeks for some. Best of luck buddy and lets hope you can get back to wagering for that 1M$ race quickly, haha Â
Strogie1337 Posted December 15, 2021 #33 Posted December 15, 2021 thats crazy when you have such a high vip level..
J-Dawg Posted December 15, 2021 #34 Posted December 15, 2021 I completed my level 2 KYC verification in about 24 hours after submitting my documents. Level 3 could take a lot longer if it's not extremely simple. i.e. Show bank statement with pay-stubs, and you should breeze through level 3.
skleven Posted December 15, 2021 #35 Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, imantsk1 said: I agree, its the regulation, the main reason might be to check who you are, are you on watchlist in Interpol or have International records in some database, if Stake does not have a proof that they have been doing checks on you guys it would loose its licence pretty fast. The Gambling Authorithies can make checks on anyone. Stake does not have a gambling licence. Only a Curacao licence. If you have a website and pay a fee, you can also get the same licence. No government control for any of stakes operation. Witch is usually imo a good thing. But if the shit hits the fan, you got nothing.
Moderator ROkenTratENsaV Posted December 15, 2021 Moderator #36 Posted December 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, J-Dawg said: I completed my level 2 KYC verification in about 24 hours after submitting my documents. Level 3 could take a lot longer if it's not extremely simple. i.e. Show bank statement with pay-stubs, and you should breeze through level 3. Level 3 is address proof. Level 4 could get more annoying as that's the proof of income stuff.
htsderez Posted December 15, 2021 #37 Posted December 15, 2021 1 minute ago, ROkenTratENsaV said: Level 3 is address proof. Level 4 could get more annoying as that's the proof of income stuff. I read somewhere that they asked a guy for stamped and signed bank documents as proof, signed by the bank. Which bank would do this? Actually asking for bank documents in this kind of nonsense way is considered against the law in several countries.
skleven Posted December 15, 2021 #38 Posted December 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, htsderez said: I read somewhere that they asked a guy for stamped and signed bank documents as proof, signed by the bank. Which bank would do this? Actually asking for bank documents in this kind of nonsense way is considered against the law in several countries. Where i live it`s not legal to demand or provide documents like that to ANY 3rd party.
Guest AndrewDut Posted December 15, 2021 #39 Posted December 15, 2021 Bravo, what necessary phrase..., a magnificent idea
pmmailmate Posted December 15, 2021 Author #40 Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, skleven said: Stake does not have a gambling licence. Only a Curacao licence. If you have a website and pay a fee, you can also get the same licence. No government control for any of stakes operation. Witch is usually imo a good thing. But if the shit hits the fan, you got nothing. Just six days ago some Australian news company blew the lid and basically wrote an article about how genius their multi-national-multiple-company-layering skills were, ahaha! "It’s website lists the casino’s operator as a company – Medium Rare NV – incorporated in sleepy Curacao. Medium Rare holds an online casino licence from the Caribbean country. The limited company records do not reveal its directors or shareholders. The only detail on those records is its address – which appears on Google Maps to be an old warehouse building that houses a catering business."https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/the-secret-australian-origins-of-the-world-s-biggest-crypto-casino-20211208-p59ftb.html
jacksparrow010 Posted December 15, 2021 #41 Posted December 15, 2021 They still have the right to do so, it's in tos
skleven Posted December 15, 2021 #42 Posted December 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, jacksparrow010 said: They still have the right to do so, it's in tos Name, proof of adress and so on, yes. But personal banking information, no. Illegal and very dangerous to hand over to anyone else than yourself. Just like if the TOS stated you had to kill your mother in order to withdraw. It`s on the same level.
htsderez Posted December 15, 2021 #43 Posted December 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, skleven said: Name, proof of adress and so on, yes. But personal banking information, no. Illegal and very dangerous to hand over to anyone else than yourself. Just like if the TOS stated you had to kill your mother in order to withdraw. It`s on the same level. Even address is already too much. All they need to know is if the player is legally allowed to play (age) . Other than that who cares where the person has an apartment or whatever.
skleven Posted December 15, 2021 #44 Posted December 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, htsderez said: Even address is already too much. All they need to know is if the player is legally allowed to play (age) . Other than that who cares where the person has an apartment or whatever. That`s true. But for real casinos with valuable licences, they are obligated to identify all their players. This is not relevant on casinos like Stake.
Shanaya24 Posted December 15, 2021 #45 Posted December 15, 2021 Glad it worked out for you. But to be honest I was shocked seeing the amount you wagered. Be careful and stay healthy. Merry xmas
MarziasDaddy Posted December 15, 2021 #46 Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, pmmailmate said: Just six days ago some Australian news company blew the lid and basically wrote an article about how genius their multi-national-multiple-company-layering skills were, ahaha! "It’s website lists the casino’s operator as a company – Medium Rare NV – incorporated in sleepy Curacao. Medium Rare holds an online casino licence from the Caribbean country. The limited company records do not reveal its directors or shareholders. The only detail on those records is its address – which appears on Google Maps to be an old warehouse building that houses a catering business."https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/the-secret-australian-origins-of-the-world-s-biggest-crypto-casino-20211208-p59ftb.html If they don’t have to disclose their information, then neither should we.
guccihub Posted December 15, 2021 #47 Posted December 15, 2021 5 hours ago, pmmailmate said: I reluctantly disclosed my true identity to the KYC team. I swear to god if someone tries to ransack my home or kidnap me in the next few months, however, I know who to blame! my advice would be after the race just pack your shit and run, they can always do something to block your account with everything in it
J-Dawg Posted December 15, 2021 #48 Posted December 15, 2021 3 hours ago, skleven said: Name, proof of adress and so on, yes. But personal banking information, no. Illegal and very dangerous to hand over to anyone else than yourself. Just like if the TOS stated you had to kill your mother in order to withdraw. It`s on the same level. Every single casino operating in the regulated world, even land based casinos, need to see this info. If it's a legitimate casino with a legitimate heavy weight license being governed to the standards of EU and USA governmental regulations and anti-money-laundering, then what is there to worry about exactly?
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