Broken Plinko Seed?

[twitchsteveo13]

Update: (April 10th 2022) Have now done 67,000 plinko drops same seed no other house games played and not a single 1000x. That is more than 2x worse than a typical bad plinko seed which is one in 32,000 drops.

Somehow going 9,000x down on plinko is fair when it can only pay out 1000x max? Check my account stake you have a serious problem here, its unethical to say the least.

Many claim to have gone more than this amount but they are always wrong as they play other house games and it triggers on that seed.

Not the case for me haven't touched any other house games, 67,000 consecutive plinko drops and not a single 1000x.

I will keep updating this forum post after each session so everyone can see just how wrong and broken this is.

Would love for an actual plinko expert at stake to look into my case, live support is 100% clueless and they had the nerve to tell me to be patient after already being patient with 67,000 balls dropped.

[jungl3]

That's pretty normal variance. People have gone 150000+ balls without it hitting (playing plinko exclusively on that seed). It sucks, but it happens and it's not a being-struck-by-lightning-while-sleeping-in-a-cave level of odds.

That's assuming the game and other stake originals are run fairly, but that's up to you. Everybody needs to make their own mind up on that one.

Anyway, if you think something has to hit eventually (it should, unless the games really are rigged), then you need to adapt the bet to come out ahead when it does eventually hit.

Take a look at this, as an example..

 

[fenner5]

I truly believed my seed was broken one time, 125k+ drops exclusively on plinko without a 1000x. I finally gave up and changed seeds and I hit the 1000x like 150 drops in…pretty suspicious to be honest. 

[Animax12]

That's a gamble

[twitchsteveo13]

14 hours ago, jungl3 said:

That's pretty normal variance. People have gone 150000+ balls without it hitting (playing plinko exclusively on that seed). It sucks, but it happens and it's not a being-struck-by-lightning-while-sleeping-in-a-cave level of odds.

That's assuming the game and other stake originals are run fairly, but that's up to you. Everybody needs to make their own mind up on that one.

Anyway, if you think something has to hit eventually (it should, unless the games really are rigged), then you need to adapt the bet to come out ahead when it does eventually hit.

Take a look at this, as an example..

 

I just find it a bit of a coincidence how these seeds even exist. There should be no shot going 9,000x down for a 1000x payout. Not that i care about losing its the fact that there is no shot any single plinko seed will give you nine 1000x drops in a period of lets say 10,000 balls to even come close to getting back to a decent rtp on that seed.

We all know this, no one in the existence of stake has ever hit nine 1000x drops within 10,000 drops.

The seeds must truly be flawed, which just looks bad on stake i guess. Really thought they would have audited and looked more into these cases.

Anyways all good, ill keep grinding away.

14 hours ago, fenner5 said:

I truly believed my seed was broken one time, 125k+ drops exclusively on plinko without a 1000x. I finally gave up and changed seeds and I hit the 1000x like 150 drops in…pretty suspicious to be honest. 

Really feeling the same, it is very very suspicious to be honest. No shot it would ever drop nine 1000x balls within 10k drops and yet it can easily do that in reverse which is pretty disgusting.

[Wyk420]

i had 140k balls without 1000x some months ago, that shit just happens. i know its putrid but thats Plinko 

[twitchsteveo13]

1 hour ago, Wyk420 said:

i had 140k balls without 1000x some months ago, that shit just happens. i know its putrid but thats Plinko 

Yeah that's the type of stuff I mean, there is no shot a seed exists in reverse on the flip side to that for example.

That's the shady broken part of it, no one would ever get fourteen 1000x drops in 140k balls, just going off your example.

you often hear people going so many drops with no 1000x but you never hear someone hitting a 1000x 14 times in the same amount of drops, that alone is very unusual.

Anyways.

 

[Barabasz94]

plinkoskem

[twitchsteveo13]

46 minutes ago, Barabasz94 said:

plinkoskem

yeah big time, would love for someone to share a seed to review the nonce of fourteen 1000x drops in 100k balls, Heck id even be shocked to see a seed with eight 1000x drops in 100k balls.

they just dont exist and yet seeds in reverse where it takes that long for a single 1000x do exist very frequently, talk about fishy as rotten sushi.

[axfrozzy]

I think it's just the Gamble, in less than 1000 balls I got the x1000 and in 2000-3000 balls I got nothing 

[BGjack1]

Previously i went to plinko (before the "big bois" nerf) i was at 55k nonce and hit 1000x , after that another one at 61k and one more at 63k. There wasn't "failed to fetch" scam error back then or "please slow down". And it was all in the span of 30 mins, my name was at the 3 "lucky hits". Life was good then...

[fenner5]

13 minutes ago, PAINTEDBLVCK said:

The thing people need to know and remember is every seed is different. So comparing statistics from what other players have experienced would be totally useless. Online casinos isn't like regular casino that you walk into.  Walk in casinos games aren't based on seeds to determine the outcome. So that's when statistics actually do come into play. After a certain amount of bets the game has accumulated, however much that is. That's when it will pay  But seeds are different. With seeds the amount the game will pay and when it will pay is already pre determined. Some seeds might pay off right away. Others might take forever. That's why I usually change seeds quite often. And who knows. There are probably some seeds that never pay off. That's the gamble. A seed is similar to one entire roll of lottery scratchers. Some rolls might have winning tickets in the beginning. Others might have winning tickets more towards the end of the roll. It's up to you to choose the right roll. 

The hardest thing to do is give up on a seed…impossible to shake that feeling that it was gunna be the next ball that hits. Currently going through that crisis right now lol 😅

[twitchsteveo13]

Not even mad or anything to be honest was just really hoping someone could share a seed to get reviewed by nonce, that hit like fourteen 1000x in 30k balls or something crazy like that to actually be verified, if i seen even one seed with nonce like that i would instantly delete this whole post.

I just dont understand how the opposite never happens, sure it can eat 140k balls no 1000x but there just aint any seeds that go in reverse and technically for it to be fair there should be those seeds being shown and bragged about but there just never is. Most ive seen on a good seed is four 1000x in 100k drops and thats like a god tier seed. no shot it would ever give you fourteen in that time span, but it sure can eat 14,000x like nothing, very fishy.

Guess some seeds truly are flawed, there should not be any seeds that can go 100k+ drops and no 1000x by that time they would have easily made 6,000 - 10,000x off a player for what a 1000x payout...

In all honesty since these flawed seeds are pre determined with set outcomes, how did they pass any sort of provably fair audit.

Someone share their seed and nonce results with fourteen 1000x drops in 32k drops, and ill straight up delete this post and never talk trash about plinko ever again, hahah yeah right it just dont exist.

[forallthat]

skem plinko

[twitchsteveo13]

Still want to see a crazy seed nonce with like 14 drops of 1000x in 32k balls.

Until someone shares a seed like that to actually be verified, its for sure flawed on these higher seeds that take 100k + drops  to see a single 1000x

Someone share that seed to be verified with nonce like that and ill kick myself in the nuts, cause it just dont exist.

Shady as f to say the least.

2 minutes ago, Ghostnipple said:

Do you knoow what the odds are for hitting a 1000x in Plinko compared to hitting say 1000x in Limbo for example?

limbo roughly 1 in 7,000 - 10,000

plinko supposedly 1 in 32,000 but more like 1 in 100,000 and somehow they think thats fair and get away with it.

[twitchsteveo13]

1 minute ago, Ghostnipple said:

In limbo its on average you will see 1000x every 1000 rolls

yeah but it does the same stuff, can easily go 10,000 on limbo but thats nothing compared to plinko its numbers are truly flawed and rip players off.

[ham11]

so hard 1Kx in plinko

[twitchsteveo13]

2 minutes ago, ham11 said:

so hard 1Kx in plinko

its so far beyond hard on these flawed seeds, 14,000x down for a 1000x drop. I mean come on stake how greedy were you when calculating and auditing these seeds.

[twitchsteveo13]

Just now, Ghostnipple said:

I have never seen Limbo go over 7500 rolls without hitting 1000x and that is not very common, but I love to see it.

aside from single target there are ,many ways to hit 1000x in limbo
10x100x
10x10x10x
20x50x
etc

yeah for sure, but like i said thats a fair game, literally impossible to say the same for plinko, if you are comparing it to limbo like what was stake doing ripping players off like that with seeds of 210k drops and no 1000x how did that pass any type of audit? Obviously it didnt.

[twitchsteveo13]

Update, now currently passed the 92,000 drop mark still no 1000x

Roughly 3x past the normal average drop rate of 32k balls.

Just great awesome game you have here stake, what a load of bull.

[ThaliaLita]

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[twitchsteveo13]

Update:

Now 104,000 drops still no 1000x

And they call this game provably fair, in what world?

17,000x down for not even a single 1000x is not provably fair.

[reptileme]

i've had rough runs also, anything over 150k i switch seed. 

 

[twitchsteveo13]

Update:

Now 114,000 drops and still no 1000x

Roughly 20,000x down.

Really thought you were better than that stake, apparently your so desperate you allow taking 20,000x from a player for not even a single 1000x return.

Normally I wouldn't care about how many drops, 500k or more who cares, but the fact you made such a toxic seed of 20,000x down without a 1000x is just pure greed and shady as can be, leaves a very disgusting look on your name for you to even allow that type of seed in your game to begin with.

At this point there is no excuse for something so pathetic.

 

[majikoins69]

On 4/11/2022 at 4:35 AM, jungl3 said:

That's pretty normal variance. People have gone 150000+ balls without it hitting (playing plinko exclusively on that seed). It sucks, but it happens and it's not a being-struck-by-lightning-while-sleeping-in-a-cave level of odds.

That's assuming the game and other stake originals are run fairly, but that's up to you. Everybody needs to make their own mind up on that one.

Anyway, if you think something has to hit eventually (it should, unless the games really are rigged), then you need to adapt the bet to come out ahead when it does eventually hit.

Take a look at this, as an example..

 

Agree with this.