arie1985 Posted March 26, 2023 #27 Posted March 26, 2023 57 minutes ago, aansupriyadi said: Raffle was fair Based on ... ? 11 hours ago, sircristian said: 2 guys winning 2 times on millions of tickets. Odds for that are impossible. If someone still believes this is legit, should do a simple math. And both the guys have no visible statistics. The entire process lacks transparency and it is a known fact the google randomizer is crap. A friend of Xposed told him ahead what numbers will be drawn. Shame on you Stake for making people lose their time with that bullshit stream as well besides taking all their money and leaving families homeless. There is no limit to human greed. What this guy says seems more reasonable & logical than your BS @aansupriyadi
pbikash75 Posted March 27, 2023 #28 Posted March 27, 2023 @SteveIt's really fishy #95 1020630 - m1king 1762490 - m1king #95 862398 - hoppy1993 1882730 - hoppy1993 #94 877625 - hoppy1993 #94 1236016 - Seocasinoseo 1238356 - Seocasinoseo #93 709744 - Seocasinoseo 577228 - Seocasinoseo #95 1272035 - bhumani #92 1017058 - bhumani #95 1599202 - TikJunior #94 115106 - TikJunior I don't know how lucky they are but. It is raising question on the raffle process. May be stake should change the selection process and find a more reliable and transparent way of selection.
veeserion Posted March 28, 2023 #29 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 5:22 PM, pbikash75 said: @SteveIt's really fishy #95 1020630 - m1king 1762490 - m1king #95 862398 - hoppy1993 1882730 - hoppy1993 #94 877625 - hoppy1993 #94 1236016 - Seocasinoseo 1238356 - Seocasinoseo #93 709744 - Seocasinoseo 577228 - Seocasinoseo #95 1272035 - bhumani #92 1017058 - bhumani #95 1599202 - TikJunior #94 115106 - TikJunior I don't know how lucky they are but. It is raising question on the raffle process. May be stake should change the selection process and find a more reliable and transparent way of selection. wdym? the process right now for drawing is as transparent and reliable as it is (Google RNG). These winners that you've listed are ranked Plat 4 to High Diamond. They have a higher chance of getting picked because they have so many tickets due to the insane amount of $ they wager.
arie1985 Posted March 28, 2023 #30 Posted March 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, veeserion said: wdym? the process right now for drawing is as transparent and reliable as it is (Google RNG). These winners that you've listed are ranked Plat 4 to High Diamond. They have a higher chance of getting picked because they have so many tickets due to the insane amount of $ they wager. wdym = what do you mean? he means something doesn't seem right. No one is disputing the fact these users rolled tons of money - what some users already pointed out in this thread is: 1) These users have their stats hidden, all of them 2) Who really is behind these accounts - are these genuine users or not? That's the million dollar question. Can you answer it?
pbikash75 Posted March 28, 2023 #31 Posted March 28, 2023 I mean what is the chance of getting selected out of million tickets twice in a roll.
ralfonso Posted March 28, 2023 #32 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 2:15 PM, arie1985 said: You mean employees? It's not only with Giveaway #95 Giveaway #94 = 1236016 - Seocasinoseo Giveaway #93 = 709744 - Seocasinoseo Who is this user "Seocasinoseo" ? Joined on February 27, 2022 https://stake.com/sports/home?name=Seocasinoseo&modal=user&tab=statistics This user has no visible statistics. Just like any other user who decides to hide their statistics. "Hidden" doesn't mean that player/user is fishy or anything else
pbikash75 Posted March 28, 2023 #33 Posted March 28, 2023 If there is nothing they can change the process as well to a bit more transparent. Right.
veeserion Posted March 28, 2023 #34 Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, arie1985 said: wdym = what do you mean? he means something doesn't seem right. No one is disputing the fact these users rolled tons of money - what some users already pointed out in this thread is: 1) These users have their stats hidden, all of them 2) Who really is behind these accounts - are these genuine users or not? That's the million dollar question. Can you answer it? The rank 1 in the daily race right now has 28 million$ wagered, the race ends in 3 hours so, lets assume that the racer will eventually reach $30m wagered by the end of the race. Now, lets presume that he gambles the same volume of wagers consistently everyday of the week, that would total to $210m wagered weekly for that bettor. Furthermore, 1 ticket for the raffle = $1000 wagered, that would result to the bettor having 210,000 tickets for the raffle that is spread across the days (ticket numbers). Last week's raffle has a total of 1,924,058 tickets that could be drawn. So the probability of winning the raffle with 210,000 tickets out of 1,924,058 is: P = 210,000 / 1,924,058 P = 0.1092 Therefore, that bettor's probability of winning the raffle is approximately 0.1092 or about 10.92%. Don't tell me you've never won twice in a row in limbo/dice with 10% win chance. Keep in mind, that 10% is just for 1 oil prince that likes to gamble an entire country's GDP, how much more if one of them is having a great week and decides to bet more? In regards to the accusations that these accounts could be "fake" or "not genuine", where's your proof? Their statistics being hidden doesn't really add to your case (I'd actually prefer my statistics hidden, I only have them on because I've been joining some of the challenges which requires my profile to be NOT hidden). Faking the winners wouldn't really benefit Stake, because new customers would be intimidated to join the raffle because degens who bet hundreds of thousands would just outnumber their tickets too much. Which means, the players who wins the raffles must be real. If not, Stake is making a bad business decision. (Basic casino bait: Giving the players small wins would sooner or later push them to deposit more in the long run) TLDR: 1. Hidden stats doesn't mean anything, Most people just want to be anonymous and private. 2. Genuine users are behind these accounts, Stake benefits more in giving away money (Advertisement and Customer Return) rather than going out their way and create accounts that wagers 10s of millions of dollars everyweek (very sad if true). If you never won a weekly raffle, go kick rocks and be salty on your own. Don't go about and post an accusation hinting at Stake of foul play.
aansupriyadi Posted March 30, 2023 #35 Posted March 30, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 7:33 PM, arie1985 said: Based on ... ? What this guy says seems more reasonable & logical than your BS @aansupriyadi Based on Google generator, less ticket less win
seday96 Posted March 31, 2023 #38 Posted March 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, Arifrh6633 said: I has 1 ticket for this week wish lucky Me too. Good luck! :)
Arifrh6633 Posted April 1, 2023 #39 Posted April 1, 2023 9 hours ago, seday96 said: Me too. Good luck! GL all
pbikash75 Posted April 1, 2023 #41 Posted April 1, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 5:45 PM, veeserion said: The rank 1 in the daily race right now has 28 million$ wagered, the race ends in 3 hours so, lets assume that the racer will eventually reach $30m wagered by the end of the race. Now, lets presume that he gambles the same volume of wagers consistently everyday of the week, that would total to $210m wagered weekly for that bettor. Furthermore, 1 ticket for the raffle = $1000 wagered, that would result to the bettor having 210,000 tickets for the raffle that is spread across the days (ticket numbers). Last week's raffle has a total of 1,924,058 tickets that could be drawn. So the probability of winning the raffle with 210,000 tickets out of 1,924,058 is: P = 210,000 / 1,924,058 P = 0.1092 Therefore, that bettor's probability of winning the raffle is approximately 0.1092 or about 10.92%. Don't tell me you've never won twice in a row in limbo/dice with 10% win chance. Keep in mind, that 10% is just for 1 oil prince that likes to gamble an entire country's GDP, how much more if one of them is having a great week and decides to bet more? In regards to the accusations that these accounts could be "fake" or "not genuine", where's your proof? Their statistics being hidden doesn't really add to your case (I'd actually prefer my statistics hidden, I only have them on because I've been joining some of the challenges which requires my profile to be NOT hidden). Faking the winners wouldn't really benefit Stake, because new customers would be intimidated to join the raffle because degens who bet hundreds of thousands would just outnumber their tickets too much. Which means, the players who wins the raffles must be real. If not, Stake is making a bad business decision. (Basic casino bait: Giving the players small wins would sooner or later push them to deposit more in the long run) TLDR: 1. Hidden stats doesn't mean anything, Most people just want to be anonymous and private. 2. Genuine users are behind these accounts, Stake benefits more in giving away money (Advertisement and Customer Return) rather than going out their way and create accounts that wagers 10s of millions of dollars everyweek (very sad if true). If you never won a weekly raffle, go kick rocks and be salty on your own. Don't go about and post an accusation hinting at Stake of foul play. ok note down the leader of today's leaderboard and let's see out of 10% chance according to you how much raffle did he wins. Then we will decide . And I never pointed about the fact of Hiding the Profile stats, Even my profile is private. I am just asking if the the withdrawal process is genuine try to make it more transparent. That way stake can gain more trust and more business.
veeserion Posted April 1, 2023 #43 Posted April 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, pbikash75 said: ok note down the leader of today's leaderboard and let's see out of 10% chance according to you how much raffle did he wins. Then we will decide . And I never pointed about the fact of Hiding the Profile stats, Even my profile is private. //I was replying to that one dude saying "These users have their stats hidden, all of them" I am just asking if the the withdrawal process is genuine try to make it more transparent. That way stake can gain more trust and more business. Aight man, @Edward let me win this week's raffle and I'll personally stream to this dude on how I'll withdraw that $5000 moolahh
ansnun Posted April 1, 2023 #45 Posted April 1, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 2:15 PM, veeserion said: The rank 1 in the daily race right now has 28 million$ wagered, the race ends in 3 hours so, lets assume that the racer will eventually reach $30m wagered by the end of the race. Now, lets presume that he gambles the same volume of wagers consistently everyday of the week, that would total to $210m wagered weekly for that bettor. Furthermore, 1 ticket for the raffle = $1000 wagered, that would result to the bettor having 210,000 tickets for the raffle that is spread across the days (ticket numbers). Last week's raffle has a total of 1,924,058 tickets that could be drawn. So the probability of winning the raffle with 210,000 tickets out of 1,924,058 is: P = 210,000 / 1,924,058 P = 0.1092 Therefore, that bettor's probability of winning the raffle is approximately 0.1092 or about 10.92%. Don't tell me you've never won twice in a row in limbo/dice with 10% win chance. Keep in mind, that 10% is just for 1 oil prince that likes to gamble an entire country's GDP, how much more if one of them is having a great week and decides to bet more? In regards to the accusations that these accounts could be "fake" or "not genuine", where's your proof? Their statistics being hidden doesn't really add to your case (I'd actually prefer my statistics hidden, I only have them on because I've been joining some of the challenges which requires my profile to be NOT hidden). Faking the winners wouldn't really benefit Stake, because new customers would be intimidated to join the raffle because degens who bet hundreds of thousands would just outnumber their tickets too much. Which means, the players who wins the raffles must be real. If not, Stake is making a bad business decision. (Basic casino bait: Giving the players small wins would sooner or later push them to deposit more in the long run) TLDR: 1. Hidden stats doesn't mean anything, Most people just want to be anonymous and private. 2. Genuine users are behind these accounts, Stake benefits more in giving away money (Advertisement and Customer Return) rather than going out their way and create accounts that wagers 10s of millions of dollars everyweek (very sad if true). If you never won a weekly raffle, go kick rocks and be salty on your own. Don't go about and post an accusation hinting at Stake of foul play. well explained
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