VitaminDMT Posted June 5, 2023 #1 Posted June 5, 2023 So 13 mines = nearly 50% chance of bomb or clear/gem on first click. Funny how every single one of these games in a row I only had ONE yes ONE fucking game hit 3 gems for a 10x. Also I'd love to see the "provably fair" when using "pick random mine" because as far as I'm concerned YOU as a website cannot. So lets hear it, I'll wait.
FL3CHA2000 Posted June 5, 2023 #2 Posted June 5, 2023 They don t care anymore about customers believe me...
VitaminDMT Posted June 5, 2023 Author #3 Posted June 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, FL3CHA2000 said: They don t care anymore about customers believe me... Yes I'm quite aware of this. Support tried to spoon feed me the provably fair non sense over and over. Then when I told them TO LISTEN to me and just read chat for a moment they'd see what I meant. They're going to get in touch with the other support team that's probably not even real and let them know what I brought to their attention and get back to me. OH AND THEN they also said "you have the option of manually picking your mines" Okay yes actually you're right I do. But there's also the option you give us that's not provably fair, so how about we discuss that stake? Lmao they'll push the blame as much as they can.
VitaminDMT Posted June 5, 2023 Author #4 Posted June 5, 2023 As much as I appreciate you guys expressing your opinions, I'd like to give someone from stake at least some time to explain exactly how it is their verify games system works to show how "random" the random mine select button does its thing before we go after them.
Illum785 Posted June 5, 2023 #6 Posted June 5, 2023 When I played crash, I saw 1.00 (5 out of 6) times in a row. You know what I was thinking? There must have been an idiot who was heavy betting on 1.01 This is just the reality of Stake. If stake says it only has a 1% edge, it will ensure it will take its wins when the highest bets are made during that 1% and ensures it loses during the 99% with the lowest bets. This will all be provably fair because they only win their 1%. Nobody knows exactly what what value the 1% is coming from because these rolls are infinite and not defined. Is it 1% of the first million rolls? 1% of the first billion? You can’t prove with certainty what that number is, that’s how they get away with it.
dawid-m Posted June 5, 2023 #7 Posted June 5, 2023 Try Dragon tower easy mode.... It's like they know where you are placing your "egg". No Mather, I think it's just animation not more.. Someone said in some earlier threads, stake chases the bets. What would explain a lot ( where's fairness?)
BGjack1 Posted June 5, 2023 #8 Posted June 5, 2023 You guys still believe that it's true about the 1% house edge ?
v1rtu0s Posted June 6, 2023 #10 Posted June 6, 2023 I long suspected the 'random' button in mines and dragon tower to be manipulated (which can easily be done because it's not part of the bet that you can check with provably fair) The other thing is, that 1% house edge is not the reason you bust (most of the time) It's the variance (which is off the charts betting on high multipliers) that gets most people. The 1% really does not say much (for most betting behaviour). Unfortunately it takes quite a long time to get this.
fredzapper Posted June 6, 2023 #11 Posted June 6, 2023 What happened to @dupeddonkshowing up to explain how provably fair Stake is? The fact he has stopped defending every single time someone says it's not is very fishy.
Fimo Posted June 6, 2023 #12 Posted June 6, 2023 This is funny to me. Players expecting to win big on a hot streak, and expecting to break even on their lose streak.
Makbi Posted June 6, 2023 #14 Posted June 6, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 6:34 PM, VitaminDMT said: This is really happen. I win 3 round in a row but suddenly I start losing 50 or more time I didn't know what's happening, on the last bet is i suddenly cash out I don't believe what I see, that damn mine moved to another place. Believe me if want to win some money never bet continuesly on any game more 5 times.
realbaaam Posted June 6, 2023 #15 Posted June 6, 2023 Also I am sure they fucking people on purpose, they turn so bad on people who deposit multiple times in a row quick succession... its clearly visible they milking the community to maximum extend.
krice Posted June 6, 2023 #16 Posted June 6, 2023 every game, it's already set how may gems you can possibly open. mine counts doesn't matter, they're just giving us illusion of sense of control and choice. if it's set to open a mine on first click, no matter where you click nor how many mines you choose to set, you'll fucked up
Makbi Posted June 6, 2023 #17 Posted June 6, 2023 They know if they spare some bones to some people, people will cheer. Stake stake & stake gamblers have no morals why they care about gamblers, glambers are ruthless community losing there wife or everything for thousands of years
dupeddonk Posted June 17, 2023 #18 Posted June 17, 2023 On 6/6/2023 at 11:32 AM, fredzapper said: What happened to @dupeddonkshowing up to explain how provably fair Stake is? The fact he has stopped defending every single time someone says it's not is very fishy. The guy is crying about it not being provably fair because he decided to let Stake make the decision for him. I mean, yeah, it's not provably fair when you decide to let the house make the players decisions...duh. Also, as usual, his claim that appears to be "I made ~120 bets only attempting to reveal 3 diamonds for a 10x win and only won once" is obviously not true. Losers love exaggerating about how unlucky they got. It makes the whole rigtard conspiracy easier to push.
lombraddy Posted June 17, 2023 #19 Posted June 17, 2023 this is what the cassinos loves about players when they go on a fiull tilt mode on
itstradford Posted June 17, 2023 #20 Posted June 17, 2023 This is why I don't trust originals anymore
dupeddonk Posted June 18, 2023 #22 Posted June 18, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 11:10 AM, VitaminDMT said: As much as I appreciate you guys expressing your opinions, I'd like to give someone from stake at least some time to explain exactly how it is their verify games system works to show how "random" the random mine select button does its thing before we go after them. Its only probably fair if: -You save the hashed server seed before making first bet. -choose your own seed instead of using the one auto generated. - choose which square to reveal If you don't do all of these things, you can't prove that the house wasn't cheating.
Cryptogenius Posted June 18, 2023 #24 Posted June 18, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 9:48 PM, dawid-m said: Try Dragon tower easy mode.... It's like they know where you are placing your "egg". No Mather, I think it's just animation not more.. Someone said in some earlier threads, stake chases the bets. What would explain a lot ( where's fairness?) stake AML JAVASCRIPT TO manipulate the bets there is nothing as provably fair on stake.com. its all science of big numbers. they can manipulate some nonces in which the hash remain unchanged, in 39 years if you play 24 hours a day you might reach to 100 million bets , that to you wont reach 16^-64 percent as well. so its all a scam the day stopped the api. as the bets cannot be exported on api and they can do what ever they want stake uses sensors to manipualte the bets
axelbert93 Posted June 18, 2023 #25 Posted June 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Cryptogenius said: stake AML JAVASCRIPT TO manipulate the bets there is nothing as provably fair on stake.com. its all science of big numbers. they can manipulate some nonces in which the hash remain unchanged, in 39 years if you play 24 hours a day you might reach to 100 million bets , that to you wont reach 16^-64 percent as well. so its all a scam the day stopped the api. as the bets cannot be exported on api and they can do what ever they want stake uses sensors to manipualte the bets Omg you make us to know
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