N8erade91 Posted June 18, 2023 #26 Posted June 18, 2023 yes like what in the honest fuck is going on with this site. like originals cant be legit right? like fuck this is not the same site it used to be, something is seriously wrong
Primequin Posted June 19, 2023 #27 Posted June 19, 2023 Been there. You have a lots of experience to have.
dupeddonk Posted June 19, 2023 #28 Posted June 19, 2023 16 hours ago, Cryptogenius said: its all science of big numbers. You mean....math? 16 hours ago, Cryptogenius said: stake AML JAVASCRIPT what's that. The AML part. Anti Money Laundering? Awesome Machine Learning? 16 hours ago, Cryptogenius said: they can manipulate some nonces in which the hash remain unchanged, Not the final hash. Sha256 is still the industry standard. You could prove me wrong by sharing any two strings of text that have the same Sha256 hash. (You won't be able to, don't waste your time.) 16 hours ago, Cryptogenius said: in 39 years if you play 24 hours a day you might reach to 100 million bets Let's give each bet 1 second. If you play for 24 hours a day it would take you just over 3 years to reach 100 million bets. In 39 years you would reach more than 1.2 billion bets. But...so what? 16 hours ago, Cryptogenius said: that to you wont reach 16^-64 percent as well wut 16 hours ago, Cryptogenius said: so its all a scam the day stopped the api. huh? 16 hours ago, Cryptogenius said: as the bets cannot be exported on api and they can do what ever they want Bets can be exported. All the final results are served to your browser. They limited post permissions, so you can't place bets as easily with the api. 16 hours ago, Cryptogenius said: stake uses sensors to manipualte the bets Really? You think they're using the accelerometer or gyroscope in your phone to cheat you? I think it's a bot detection third party service that checks whether or not your device has access to something like an accelerometer and then uses that as a parameter when deciding if you're bot or not.
ovidex Posted June 19, 2023 #29 Posted June 19, 2023 If you are thinking of playing Stake Originals, just ask your VIP host to give you Eddie's wallet address instead. Send the money directly to him. It feels better than getting scammed. I'm down over $1.4 million (excluding bonuses) on stake originals only. I hit a 500x for $500k 2 years ago before stake got big. Since then over a million bets on Keno and no 500x. Sometimes it takes 1000 bets just to hit a 13x lol.
Smokerr77 Posted June 19, 2023 #30 Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 8:34 PM, VitaminDMT said: So 13 mines = nearly 50% chance of bomb or clear/gem on first click. Funny how every single one of these games in a row I only had ONE yes ONE fucking game hit 3 gems for a 10x. Also I'd love to see the "provably fair" when using "pick random mine" because as far as I'm concerned YOU as a website cannot. So lets hear it, I'll wait. Uwu crazy mines
maxisl Posted June 19, 2023 #31 Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/18/2023 at 8:02 PM, dupeddonk said: Its only probably fair if: -You save the hashed server seed before making first bet. -choose your own seed instead of using the one auto generated. - choose which square to reveal If you don't do all of these things, you can't prove that the house wasn't cheating. hhhhhhhhhh how much your salary ? provably fair mean nothing 8 hours ago, ovidex said: If you are thinking of playing Stake Originals, just ask your VIP host to give you Eddie's wallet address instead. Send the money directly to him. It feels better than getting scammed. I'm down over $1.4 million (excluding bonuses) on stake originals only. I hit a 500x for $500k 2 years ago before stake got big. Since then over a million bets on Keno and no 500x. Sometimes it takes 1000 bets just to hit a 13x lol. 😔 sorry
dupeddonk Posted June 19, 2023 #32 Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, maxisl said: hhhhhhhhhh how much your salary ? provably fair mean nothing Gotta understand how it works for it to mean something.
Cryptogenius Posted June 23, 2023 #33 Posted June 23, 2023 On 6/19/2023 at 4:17 PM, dupeddonk said: You mean....math? what's that. The AML part. Anti Money Laundering? Awesome Machine Learning? Not the final hash. Sha256 is still the industry standard. You could prove me wrong by sharing any two strings of text that have the same Sha256 hash. (You won't be able to, don't waste your time.) Let's give each bet 1 second. If you play for 24 hours a day it would take you just over 3 years to reach 100 million bets. In 39 years you would reach more than 1.2 billion bets. But...so what? wut huh? Bets can be exported. All the final results are served to your browser. They limited post permissions, so you can't place bets as easily with the api. Really? You think they're using the accelerometer or gyroscope in your phone to cheat you? I think it's a bot detection third party service that checks whether or not your device has access to something like an accelerometer and then uses that as a parameter when deciding if you're bot or not. 1. what us your relation with stake , are you an employee a paid pirate to earn money on people suffering ? 2. Aml stands for assembly machine language which your fucking website uses to manipulate bets , and the javascript which i posted uses to find your finger priniting and accordingly manipulate the bets. 3. sha256 must be industry standard but its not full proof , it can be manipulated easily . some hashes can be common and the percentage of having comman hash . some words can have the same hash , and the probablity of having same hash is 10^-32 percent of the sample set. if you compare it with the large number it would come out to some what about 36 percent to 50 percent . thatmeans on certain nonces 50 percent of the bets can be modified. 4. let me know how ti export the bets , as no one can do so uptil now. 5. stake.com is running a scam machine , if not ask them to post on twitter about their motion detecting sensors which is attached below and javascript which they are using to manipulate the result of the bets. 6. usually what happens when you click on mines the result is pulled out from the server . here the server and the java script they fuck up your result and accordingly the result is manipulated from javascript and impressioned out the server. 7. they say bet results are based on luck wrong. your seeds are based on luck which can be manipulated . the results are calculated and manipulated. hence they have a verify page. 8. stake.com litigation coming on your way no matter how much our rights are protected. they bave nothing gotta do with provably fair. Reveal seeds after playing mines , and add 20 nonces to the verify page , the website wont show you a result or ask you to referesh , and after some times it shows the result . casino:164280269706 this bet i revealed nonce at 155. i tried searching result of nonce at 167 nonce it was asking me to refresh again n again. nothing have to do with provably fair
1ryan Posted June 23, 2023 #35 Posted June 23, 2023 it seems that the longer we stay in a game the more losses appear
dupeddonk Posted June 24, 2023 #36 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/22/2023 at 9:15 PM, Cryptogenius said: 1. what us your relation with stake , are you an employee a paid pirate to earn money on people suffering ? I'm not an employee of stake. I am a player. Not a pirate either. On 6/22/2023 at 9:15 PM, Cryptogenius said: 2. Aml stands for assembly machine language which your fucking website uses to manipulate bets , and the javascript which i posted uses to find your finger priniting and accordingly manipulate the bets. Pretty sure they would use typescript or plain old javascript. On 6/22/2023 at 9:15 PM, Cryptogenius said: 3. sha256 must be industry standard but its not full proof , it can be manipulated easily . No it can't. Who told you that? On 6/22/2023 at 9:15 PM, Cryptogenius said: some words can have the same hash Who told you that? It's not true. Just a little bit of research and you'll see how silly of a statement that is. But hey, if you want to prove me wrong, show me two words with the same hash. Seriously. Don't even have to be real words. Any two different string of characters with the same sha256 hash. You won't be able to. No two words have the same hash. The chances of coming across two strings that have the same sha256 hash are mind blowlingly astronomical. On 6/22/2023 at 9:15 PM, Cryptogenius said: some hashes can be common and the percentage of having comman hash . some words can have the same hash , and the probablity of having same hash is 10^-32 percent of the sample set. if you compare it with the large number it would come out to some what about 36 percent to 50 percent . thatmeans on certain nonces 50 percent of the bets can be modified. There are no common hashes. Changing one byte in a string will produce a hash that has absolutely no relationship to it's original hash. For example, if we hash the entire bible, then add an extra "!" to the end and hash again, the most advanced machine learning programs running the most powerful hardware after months of analyzing the sha256 algo wouldn't be able to differentiate between the original bible hash, the new bible! hash, and a white noise hash. Check out the avalanche effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avalanche_effect
Cryptogenius Posted June 24, 2023 #37 Posted June 24, 2023 they bave nothing gotta do with provably fair. Reveal seeds after playing mines , and add 20 nonces to the verify page , the website wont show you a result or ask you to referesh , and after some times it shows the result . casino:164280269706 this bet i revealed nonce at 155. i tried searching result of nonce at 167 nonce it was asking me to refresh again n again. nothing have to do with provably fair learn about hash collision , and daisy chaining
beautifulkitten Posted June 24, 2023 #39 Posted June 24, 2023 yeah. nonce are just numbers provided to make an illusion that everything is fairly happening. like the magician act. everything you see with your eyes maybe believable things . only matters that what is happening in the background behind the curtain. only stake knows how long they want to run
Hamil14 Posted June 24, 2023 #41 Posted June 24, 2023 You need to lose a lot of money before you hit a decent one
Herusaprudin Posted June 24, 2023 #42 Posted June 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hamil14 said: You need to lose a lot of money before you hit a decent one Can you example how much ur loses and what u biggest hit
ranieroprov Posted June 24, 2023 #43 Posted June 24, 2023 you're better shot to actually have a technical question answered is to speak directly with eddie.... support on this website is AI confirmed.
T0ky0 Posted June 24, 2023 #44 Posted June 24, 2023 im thinking about plinko too someone hittin 1k multi with just 100 nonce but me fck im doin almost a thousand balls still not hittin
Wixz Posted June 24, 2023 #46 Posted June 24, 2023 I don't think its rigged, maybe just a bad day broski
v1rtu0s Posted June 24, 2023 #47 Posted June 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Cryptogenius said: they bave nothing gotta do with provably fair. Reveal seeds after playing mines , and add 20 nonces to the verify page , the website wont show you a result or ask you to referesh , and after some times it shows the result . casino:164280269706 this bet i revealed nonce at 155. i tried searching result of nonce at 167 nonce it was asking me to refresh again n again. nothing have to do with provably fair learn about hash collision , and daisy chaining Yes I know about hash collisions and daisy chaining - and to be honest, nothing there strikes me as particularly vulnerable for exploitation. So I ask you: what the fuck are you babbling on about Quote 11 minutes ago, Wix said: I don't think its rigged, maybe just a bad day broski Quality content right here
Tokai2021 Posted June 24, 2023 #48 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/18/2023 at 8:00 PM, Cryptogenius said: stake AML JAVASCRIPT TO manipulate the bets there is nothing as provably fair on stake.com. its all science of big numbers. they can manipulate some nonces in which the hash remain unchanged, in 39 years if you play 24 hours a day you might reach to 100 million bets , that to you wont reach 16^-64 percent as well. so its all a scam the day stopped the api. as the bets cannot be exported on api and they can do what ever they want stake uses sensors to manipualte the bets interesting you post this, cause when i play crash, and the mouse is not longer on the cashout button...... now crash goes 50x and is zooooming,... still counting 200x .... 250x... now i move my mouse, to click cashout. the moment i click...... it crashes and not payout is initiated. how do i block this?
19PlutoBani85 Posted June 24, 2023 #49 Posted June 24, 2023 Stake is a shit place now, Greedy as hell.
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