My friend tested this theory and it worked

[209thundercats]

My friend started playing stake within past 2 months . His intial big hit was a accidental $20 drop on plinko , he hit like $2000 something dollars . 

The next 2 weeks he hit a lil bit ,alot better than anything i hit over past 1 year.

Then his gf joined she played $100 or so.

He stopped playing on his account and played on hers for next 2 weeks using her phone.

Sure enough she had some great intial luck.

Better than  i did past year and better than his account did past 2 months .

He told his cousin to play at Stake so his cousin began playing,what do you know great intial lick with good RYP% and his cousin cashed out a few thousand intially.

It appears the Rtp% intial payout on new accounts is designed to get the player to trust the site .

On vip and existing accounts its automatic. 

I can say it fits exact M.O. of my intial play and everyone else i chat with. 

The RTP@% is not 96% or anywhere close these are a false facts designed to manipulate players into believing they are legit ...

[Mekwen]

means the account needs a break 

[209thundercats]

Yeah but the intial winning streaks were all similiar and all tailed off slowly to the now known RTP% of like 10%.

Basically new accounts do get the RTP% of 96% intially to gain the new players trust.

I can 100% say the first 3 months of play at stake were great a few cashouts ,a couple 1 to $2k dollar wins . 

Then next nine months nothing maybe a few $100 wins . There is no way the 96% RTP was legit. 

I know from playing land based casinos and spending $1million dollars what kind of wins and how machines play .

There is zero chance that 96% RTP rings true when u reach gold vip status ..thats facts ...

[Jeebus]

Jesus fcking christ what a bunch of nonsense to read here. None of you have the slightest clue how RTP works.

What initial RTP? You think you are so smart, and discovered some magical formula? If it was so, Stake would be dead already, massacred by millions of new accounts all cashing out big.

Just stop with the nonsense. You got lucky a few times. End of story. 

[XeroF]

All this rtp stuff is just crap yes legit casinos have correct rtp shadys casino can alter rtp pretty easy. So basicly that just means do you trust stake or not. Is a simple as that. Proven fair aint meaning shit if its no way to actually prove its fair... All these people saying a casino makes so much money anyway so they dont risk lowering rtp is just deluded. There has been and will be in the future big companies doing shady shit. Rich people will always try to be even richer. That´s just how it is.

[zion26]

It's a luck

[209thundercats]

2 hours ago, Jeebus said:

Jesus fcking christ what a bunch of nonsense to read here. None of you have the slightest clue how RTP works.

What initial RTP? You think you are so smart, and discovered some magical formula? If it was so, Stake would be dead already, massacred by millions of new accounts all cashing out big.

Just stop with the nonsense. You got lucky a few times. End of story. 

You lack intelligence, If you believe Stake would be hurt by bew accounts cashing out please educate yourself.

Stake was founded by a Australian billionaire,do you think for a moment that Stake would retain any of its players unless they gained there trust 

100% the rtp% 96 plays true when you intially play but i can guarantee you that after your first 3-4 months there is not even a chance the rtp% is above 33%.

Not even close ,i own numerous slit machines,game king,ballys,Jade Monkey,Quik hit and im able to set Rtp% to as low as 83% on keno gameking and as high as101% on same machine . 

Land based slits usually don't go below 85% .

I have gambled millions.f dollars

if you had any real knowledge of how Rto% varies from 85% to 96% you would know for fact that Vip pkayers dont get no where near that when playing slots ,im guessing sone where around 33% no more than 66%.

NEW ACCOUNTS  NEED TO TRUST STAKE TO BUILD CLIENTEL, AND THE FACT EVERYONE I SPOKE WITH HITS INTIALLY THE FORST 3-6 MONTHS AND THEN FALLS OFF AND BECOMES DREADED RTP% DN NEAR ZERO

[shepparddbobko]

I've lost 17k in my currency in my inicial Day. Where was my luck from been New? 

[franciscobs1]

This jeebus is the biggest asshole I've ever seen here on the forum 

[209thundercats]

43 minutes ago, franciscobs1 said:

This jeebus is the biggest asshole I've ever seen here on the forum 

This is just the facts,its ideal business model especially when theres no regulation or self checks. 

You gain clients trust and boom you got them hooked and dealing only with you. 

I can guarantee that rtp% of 96 is no where near that for vip players who been here for more than 1 yr 

[ProluFP]

your facts are utter BS.

 

For someone who "owns" multiple slot machines you should know that RTP isn't calculated on a few spins, yet alone a few thousand spins but millions.

 

You don't "set" RTP for an account, that is not something that is possible. 

 

 

[Lomaxxx]

Try this around 5000+ times more and THEN you have some kind of a proof and not a random hit. To know how RTP works or not is not the point of any "initially RTP".

Have you guys take a minute to understand the fact, that all these enhanced RTP versions have a so called "higher payouts" and that is the proof that providers can raise or lower the RTP? Eddie was telling in one of his streams that it is surely possible from provider site, that they can raise and lower the RTP. Otherwise it wouldnt be possible to get a reskin of a game without coding it from scratch. and therefore it is fundamentally no secret that the RTP CAN vary if the provider or the "interface/platform" to the provider wants it. Here everyone can give free rein to their own interpretation.

Enhanced RTP doesnt mean that you hit bigger than in the non-enhanced-rtp versions. It can also mean that the games give smaller basegame wins waaaaaay more often, which in the end justifies the higher payout rate. Think about that

[GoMaxWin]

7 hours ago, 209thundercats said:

Mon ami a commencé à jouer au jeu au cours des 2 derniers mois. Son gros succès initial a été une baisse accidentelle de 20 $ sur Plinko, il a touché environ 2 000 $. 

Les 2 semaines suivantes, il a frappé un peu, bien mieux que tout ce que j'ai frappé au cours de la dernière année.

Puis sa petite amie l'a rejoint, elle a joué environ 100 $.

Il a arrêté de jouer sur son compte et a joué sur le sien pendant les 2 semaines suivantes en utilisant son téléphone.

Effectivement, elle a eu une grande chance au début.

Mieux que moi l’année dernière et mieux que son compte au cours des 2 derniers mois.

Il a dit à son cousin de jouer à Stake alors son cousin a commencé à jouer, que savez-vous d'un bon coup initial avec un bon RYP% et son cousin a encaissé quelques milliers au départ.

Il semble que le paiement initial Rtp% sur les nouveaux comptes soit conçu pour amener le joueur à faire confiance au site.

Sur les comptes VIP et existants, c'est automatique. 

Je peux dire que cela correspond exactement au mode opératoire de mon jeu initial et à celui de tous les autres avec qui je discute. 

Le RTP@% n'est pas de 96 % ou s'en rapproche. Ce sont de faux faits conçus pour manipuler les joueurs en leur faisant croire qu'ils sont légitimes...

Are you sure about this?

[Ornietv]

England speaking

 

[209thundercats]

1 hour ago, ProluFP said:

your facts are utter BS.

 

For someone who "owns" multiple slot machines you should know that RTP isn't calculated on a few spins, yet alone a few thousand spins but millions.

 

You don't "set" RTP for an account, that is not something that is possible. 

 

 

YOU SET RTP ON THE  SLIT MACHINE BOZO ,THEY ALL USE RNG BASED Algorithm AND THE RTP OF 96% IS NO WHERE NEAR THAT FOR VIP PLAYERS GOLD OR ABOVE ITS NOT. 

 NOW EVERYONE I CHAT WITH SAYS THE SAME TYPE OF SLOT OUTCOME INTIALLY  . 

AFTER A FEW MONTHS THE RTP% IS BETWEEN 33%-66% ..

 

NO WAY ITS  ANYWHERE NEAR ,96% 

[franciscobs1]

2 hours ago, 209thundercats said:

Estes são apenas os fatos, seu modelo de negócios ideal, especialmente quando não há regulamentação ou autoverificações. 

Você ganha a confiança dos clientes e, boom, você os fisgou e passou a lidar apenas com você. 

Posso garantir que o rtp% de 96 não chega nem perto disso para jogadores VIP que estão aqui há mais de 1 ano 

I'm platinum I and my last few months have been nothing but defeats. It's been a while since I knew what it's like to have green 

[CapitalLetterM]

oh come on man. you could just say you got lucky multiple times.

if you are talking about RTP you are referring to billions of numbers and combination. So yeah you just got lucky a couple of times.

[WinBigLoseBiggr]

10 hours ago, 209thundercats said:

My friend started playing stake within past 2 months . His intial big hit was a accidental $20 drop on plinko , he hit like $2000 something dollars . 

The next 2 weeks he hit a lil bit ,alot better than anything i hit over past 1 year.

Then his gf joined she played $100 or so.

He stopped playing on his account and played on hers for next 2 weeks using her phone.

Sure enough she had some great intial luck.

Better than  i did past year and better than his account did past 2 months .

He told his cousin to play at Stake so his cousin began playing,what do you know great intial lick with good RYP% and his cousin cashed out a few thousand intially.

It appears the Rtp% intial payout on new accounts is designed to get the player to trust the site .

On vip and existing accounts its automatic. 

I can say it fits exact M.O. of my intial play and everyone else i chat with. 

The RTP@% is not 96% or anywhere close these are a false facts designed to manipulate players into believing they are legit ...

This is all retarded, retard conjecture. 

Do yourself a favor and get some edumacation on probability, or take an intro to statistics class you degenerate loser. 

[mahony]

Imagine people thinking can win on casino if they made new account every time 🤣 Yeah Santa Claus exist for this people

[SPN]

Congrats you found a money glitch, now you can open a new account every time the other account goes dead and you can make a living as a casino player wohoooo 😊

[bly619]

I would have to disagree with that theory unfortunately but i play on stake.us. Sounds good  tho definetly would be easy exploit if that was true.   Just out of curiosity for your increased rtp for new players theory are  you suggesting that are 1st default seed we get on sign up that stake created would  Initially be where increased rtp would come. Be really unlikely for that theory to apply to us stake.us players since people would farm accounts like crazy since  with good welcome code they give u 25$ no deposit bonud for signing up doubt they would increase rtp. Ive had way better results recently than i ever did when i first started playing

[Jeebus]

11 hours ago, XeroF said:

All this rtp stuff is just crap yes legit casinos have correct rtp shadys casino can alter rtp pretty easy. So basicly that just means do you trust stake or not. Is a simple as that. Proven fair aint meaning shit if its no way to actually prove its fair... All these people saying a casino makes so much money anyway so they dont risk lowering rtp is just deluded. There has been and will be in the future big companies doing shady shit. Rich people will always try to be even richer. That´s just how it is.

How do you know all this? Because obviously you don’t.

Casinos have zero influence on the RTP. ZERO. Whenver you enter any game you are redirected to the provider server - Pragmatic, Relax Gaming, Playtech, etc.

What providers can or cannot do with RTP is another thing, but that is out of control of casino.

Stake is a slight exception of that with their “original games”. Originals are created by Stake developers and they can do with it whatever they like i presume, even change RTP i guess. Nobody knows.

But for the rest of the games - no, casinos cannot influence that even in the slightest.

[209thundercats]

You obviously have the intelligence of a ant. 100% every casino has decision on the RTP%  , The slots they dont have they rent the floorspace and those are part of a Wide area network jackpot called WANs like lightning link . 

Yes every slot not part of a Wan has RTP% that can be set to as low as 83%

[Jeebus]

23 minutes ago, 209thundercats said:

You obviously have the intelligence of a ant. 100% every casino has decision on the RTP%  , The slots they dont have they rent the floorspace and those are part of a Wide area network jackpot called WANs like lightning link . 

Yes every slot not part of a Wan has RTP% that can be set to as low as 83%

I obviously worked in this industry for almost a decade, and know far more about slots, providers, rtp then you could imagine. And you struggle with basics son. 
Casino can be bad, not transparent with bonuses and benefits, have bad support, promise and not deliver - pretty much like Stake now, but again there is no casino which can fine tune RTP of slots in their favour.

Providers do offer higher and lower RTP packages, but usually no less then about 87-90%, and that’s just few providers like Relax, Playtech and Playngo. Even with that, each of those need to display which RTP they are using in-game. So they can’t have game showing 94% and actually “setting” it lower.

But nosenses you are saying - casino today choses 20% rtp, tomorrow 80%, on sunday 55% and crap like that - that is just ridiculous. 

[GosuDRM]

Ehhh... nonsense lol