Completely disgusting betting

[LuckyBuu]

5 different slot with paying lower than 0.1x 

 

 

 

20 Spin also pay me this, fuxking disgusting

[Nick1337]

8 minutes ago, LuckyBuu said:

5 different slot with paying lower than 0.1x 

 

 

 

20 Spin also pay me this, fuxking disgusting

really sad bro. Manipulating all from main server 

 

[Bimfo]

This is a casino. You will lose money..

Stake was built to take people's money. Deal with it bro 

12 minutes ago, maynzgg said:

I've seen you talking in chat stake definitely rigged AF now a day's those Rtp 0000.000% lol even if you play originals specially scarab you'll see the drastic changes like it all script .they nerfed everything. So they can milk is more .. fuck this people behind it hope they got severe sickness 💔

Nothing is rigged. You play, and then you go ahead to win or lose. Try the sports if you are sceptical about the casino. 

[apox1337]

Yes, Pragmatic RTP does not exist at stake.com,it's no coincidence that Pragmatic slots are highly praised here. Keeping a distance from Pragmatic, I've had 1000x such buys, and my all-time big win with Pragmatic buys was $500 with $40 buys. Also, with various bonus buys, you already know beforehand whether there will be a payout or not. Be cautious next time when 'loading features' appears on Pragmatic slots, you almost always get a 99% bonus retrigger. So, Pragmatic slots are a definitely scam!

 

I have 5-6 videos so far with 'loading features' appearing right after I made the buy, and in each case, there was a bonus retrigger!

 

Edited November 14, 2023 by apox1337

[Duky1]

[XeroF]

Prag has been killing me last 2 weeks more then usual... FP and Slushparty just omg atm...Hopefully a max around the corner.

[shepparddbobko]

Do you like to torture yourself? Then keep playing pragmatic slots. 

[llama]

1 hour ago, Bimfo said:

This is a casino. You will lose money..

Stake was built to take people's money. Deal with it bro 

Nothing is rigged. You play, and then you go ahead to win or lose. Try the sports if you are sceptical about the casino. 

The OP has presented factual data and given his opinion on that, there is a clear distinction between the two.
You however present your opinion as fact. There are only two reasons for doing this

1: Ignorance
you don't know the difference between the two.
 or
2: Intentional 
you intentionally confuse the two in order to influence player's here.


In the case of Ignorance, education is your only option.
I suggest you don't give advice to anyone until you learn the difference between fact and opinion and how to present either or both.

If it's Intentional then you have vested interests which are undeclared,
Whatever you post can not be seen as either factual or objective.
Which places a large question mark over anything you post.

[mylo]

40 minutes ago, llama said:

The OP has presented factual data and given his opinion on that, there is a clear distinction between the two.
You however present your opinion as fact. There are only two reasons for doing this

1: Ignorance
you don't know the difference between the two.
 or
2: Intentional 
you intentionally confuse the two in order to influence player's here.


In the case of Ignorance, education is your only option.
I suggest you don't give advice to anyone until you learn the difference between fact and opinion and how to present either or both.

If it's Intentional then you have vested interests which are undeclared,
Whatever you post can not be seen as either factual or objective.
Which places a large question mark over anything you post.

So... the screenshots OP presented are facts for sure.. but they are not objective data. They are hand picked to fit this particular narrative. Is stake rigged? Maybe. But that doesn't prove anything. So far the only fact presented here was by bimfo and that was the simple concept that stake is a business. They are designed with THEIR profit in mind. Not ours. Everything else that happens is circumstantial.. and even if it is rigged, there's really no way to prove it, unless you could somehow split yourself into two realities where you make a different decision(choosing a different tile in mines, for example) in one than the other and then confer with your alternate self to compare the results. Outside of that, there's no way to truly know. Besides, the terms and conditions are airtight. There's no point in wasting energy complaining about it or trying to build a rebellion.. if it's not about "fun"😒 Ugh.   Then it comes down to a choice between

1) playing with a target in mind and hoping you get real lucky and then have the discipline to cash out and leave.

2) abstain entirely

 

Every other scenario, the house wins. 🤷🏻‍♂️. 

 

Now the sponsored streamer bullshit to lure people in and make them think they will win..  THAT'S an unfair tactic, but it's not breaking any laws, yet, it's just kind of shady. 

[N8erade91]

4 hours ago, Bimfo said:

This is a casino. You will lose money..

Stake was built to take people's money. Deal with it bro 

Nothing is rigged. You play, and then you go ahead to win or lose. Try the sports if you are sceptical about the casino. 

This is just so untrue. Especially originals. They can adjust rtp for what they want. 

[jungl3]

29 minutes ago, mylo said:

Now the sponsored streamer bullshit to lure people in and make them think they will win..  THAT'S an unfair tactic, but it's not breaking any laws, yet, it's just kind of shady. 

Why is this in particular bullshit for you? I don't disagree, just wondering.

To everything you said that I didn't quote - If enough people smell smoke and shout about it, maybe somebody will look for and find a fire. Maybe others would be saved from an all consuming fire or maybe many would be saved from smoke inhalation.. (don't worry, the smoke is provably not bad for your health.. listen to our company doctor explain why...)

Being quiet when you think something is wrong is an act of cowardice. Maybe it can be called survival in some circumstances, but not here.

[Slotvader]

That is plain disgusting. Such low X are unheard or unseen on other slot providers. This is a very usual scenario with Pragmatic.

Be careful and good luck for the future

[mylo]

1 hour ago, jungl3 said:

Why is this in particular bullshit for you? I don't disagree, just wondering.

To everything you said that I didn't quote - If enough people smell smoke and shout about it, maybe somebody will look for and find a fire. Maybe others would be saved from an all consuming fire or maybe many would be saved from smoke inhalation.. (don't worry, the smoke is provably not bad for your health.. listen to our company doctor explain why...)

Being quiet when you think something is wrong is an act of cowardice. Maybe it can be called survival in some circumstances, but not here.

Well I didn't say I agreed with what they do but the fact of the matter is that I don't know and neither do you. I have personally won rather large amounts of money playing there and I'm cognizant of my personal accountability in the state my financial affairs.  For all I know, a lot of the people here might just be bad at gambling. I'm good at gambling but not good at cashing out. 

[llama]

1 hour ago, mylo said:

So... the screenshots OP presented are facts for sure.. but they are not objective data. They are hand picked to fit this particular narrative. Is stake rigged? Maybe. But that doesn't prove anything. So far the only fact presented here was by bimfo and that was the simple concept that stake is a business. They are designed with THEIR profit in mind. Not ours. Everything else that happens is circumstantial.. and even if it is rigged, there's really no way to prove it, unless you could somehow split yourself into two realities where you make a different decision(choosing a different tile in mines, for example) in one than the other and then confer with your alternate self to compare the results. Outside of that, there's no way to truly know. Besides, the terms and conditions are airtight. There's no point in wasting energy complaining about it or trying to build a rebellion.. if it's not about "fun"😒 Ugh.   Then it comes down to a choice between

1) playing with a target in mind and hoping you get real lucky and then have the discipline to cash out and leave.

2) abstain entirely

 

Every other scenario, the house wins. 🤷🏻‍♂️. 

 

Now the sponsored streamer bullshit to lure people in and make them think they will win..  THAT'S an unfair tactic, but it's not breaking any laws, yet, it's just kind of shady. 

You are incorrect.
The OP had a bad experience and the data presented illustrates that bad experience. Nowhere does the OP state that he has set out to prove or disprove anything.
 
You introduced the question "Is Stake Rigged?" The OP did not.
It is inappropriate for you to evaluate his data based on a question you have asked.




 

[dziadzia23]

Deal with it bro 

[dziadzia23]

I personally like to play slots, I want everyone to play what they like

[santin1020]

for sure is rigged, stake changes rtp of machines whenever their wants, pretty obivious when weekly and monthly are launched, someday people will pay for their actions

[mylo]

6 hours ago, llama said:

You are incorrect.
The OP had a bad experience and the data presented illustrates that bad experience. Nowhere does the OP state that he has set out to prove or disprove anything.
 
You introduced the question "Is Stake Rigged?" The OP did not.
It is inappropriate for you to evaluate his data based on a question you have asked.




 

Umm... Technically correct.. but I was responding to your rather arrogant reply to Bimfo, who DID mention that it was not rigged. Semantics aside, that really IS the underlying theme behind a post like this, is it not?  "Inappropriate?" Gmab 🙄 Sheesh.... 

Your style of argument indicates to me that you might have a problem with being wrong in any situation.. so I'm just going to leave it there.

1 hour ago, santin1020 said:

for sure is rigged, stake changes rtp of machines whenever their wants, pretty obivious when weekly and monthly are launched, someday people will pay for their actions

How can you be so sure? I've thought that too but have you ever looked at how many people are in the chat room at those times? Not to mention how active the high rollers become on those days.... And we know that the RTP tends to payout in big chunks. So if there are double the players and more high rollers playing(on auto, turbo bet), then the distribution of wins is going to look different. All I'm saying is that there are too many factors to know for sure. 

But if you believe they ARE changing the RTP on monthly/weekly day, then use that information to your advantage. 

6 hours ago, jungl3 said:

I'm happy for you and your screenshots, but my opinion hasn't changed. I feel like you're sitting on an office chair somewhere in Serbia, doing some hearts and minds work, Miloš. I mean, nobody can prove anything either way, can they?

 

Can't argue with you there man. There's no way to know.  Either of us could be AI or something.  For all my wins though, being on stake has basically ruined me and my life, I just see it as my own fault for not being more disciplined. Best of luck on your future endeavors. 🙏

[Zamia2001]

betting big lost big

[jungl3]

5 hours ago, mylo said:

Can't argue with you there man. There's no way to know.  Either of us could be AI or something.  For all my wins though, being on stake has basically ruined me and my life, I just see it as my own fault for not being more disciplined. Best of luck on your future endeavors. 🙏

Being on stake has ruined a lot of lives. I don't think the majority of people have enough self control or discipline to not become addicted to gambling, especially when it's gamified with level ups and reloads, urgency to wager before Saturday so you can have a lottery level chance to win a paltry $5k, etc. I dunno man.. I know that we need to lay blame on ourselves to get past it, but it's a disgusting and predatory industry. Add to that the possibility that all is not as it's said to be, and then you've really got a crime against humanity.

============
You responded to my post before somebody at stake deleted it. The 2nd or 3rd comment deletion in the past day. No explanation why, nobody showing their face.

Somebody didn't check for replies and it's there for everybody to see that the message is deleted.

Is it because I mentioned Serbia, land of the fragile ego?

Censorship is some weak shit.

[santin1020]

common every site has our on rtp on machines and control of it, u think a billionary industry is based just on luck? some sick algorithms analysing every decision u make, u win when site allow you to win if u only loss at some time u gonna leave 

[Basha]

You'll get another 100 under 0.1x if you buy the "Wanted dead or a wild". Try it, it always gives under 0.1x unless you're a streaming.

[rotigoreng]

Hahahsha...stakeee sca.mmmm

[llama]

11 hours ago, mylo said:

Umm... Technically correct.. but I was responding to your rather arrogant reply to Bimfo, who DID mention that it was not rigged. Semantics aside, that really IS the underlying theme behind a post like this, is it not?  "Inappropriate?" Gmab 🙄 Sheesh.... 

Your style of argument indicates to me that you might have a problem with being wrong in any situation.. so I'm just going to leave it there.

How can you be so sure? I've thought that too but have you ever looked at how many people are in the chat room at those times? Not to mention how active the high rollers become on those days.... And we know that the RTP tends to payout in big chunks. So if there are double the players and more high rollers playing(on auto, turbo bet), then the distribution of wins is going to look different. All I'm saying is that there are too many factors to know for sure. 

But if you believe they ARE changing the RTP on monthly/weekly day, then use that information to your advantage. 

Can't argue with you there man. There's no way to know.  Either of us could be AI or something.  For all my wins though, being on stake has basically ruined me and my life, I just see it as my own fault for not being more disciplined. Best of luck on your future endeavors. 🙏

It is natural for players to share their good and bad gambling experiences with a community who can empathize with  those experiences.

I don't take issue with your argument as such except that the "Stake is Rigged?" is not an argument the Op is making. 
Reframing his post in that light allows you to belittle him.

If this is a community of players and as part of that community, players can share their positive experiences, then the Op should be able to share his negative experiences, without others inventing agendas on his behalf.

If.

5 hours ago, jungl3 said:

Being on stake has ruined a lot of lives. I don't think the majority of people have enough self control or discipline to not become addicted to gambling, especially when it's gamified with level ups and reloads, urgency to wager before Saturday so you can have a lottery level chance to win a paltry $5k, etc. I dunno man.. I know that we need to lay blame on ourselves to get past it, but it's a disgusting and predatory industry. Add to that the possibility that all is not as it's said to be, and then you've really got a crime against humanity.

============
You responded to my post before somebody at stake deleted it. The 2nd or 3rd comment deletion in the past day. No explanation why, nobody showing their face.

Somebody didn't check for replies and it's there for everybody to see that the message is deleted.

Is it because I mentioned Serbia, land of the fragile ego?

Censorship is some weak shit.

 

"if  rational argument is not possible,
then lie, when lies become ineffective,
then censor"
                                   --REDACTED

[llama]

On 11/15/2023 at 1:09 PM, mylo said:

Umm... Technically correct.. but I was responding to your rather arrogant reply to Bimfo, who DID mention that it was not rigged. Semantics aside, that really IS the underlying theme behind a post like this, is it not?  "Inappropriate?" Gmab 🙄 Sheesh.... 

Your style of argument indicates to me that you might have a problem with being wrong in any situation.. so I'm just going to leave it there.

Resorting to personal attack so quickly in a discussion reflects a weakness in your position. Doing so repeatedly without check contributes to a culture of name calling and unproductive conflict.

If this is a common pattern you may need to take a break from the forum and think about your motivations for posting here.