Bimfo Posted November 17, 2023 #26 Posted November 17, 2023 On 11/14/2023 at 9:29 PM, N8erade91 said: This is just so untrue. Especially originals. They can adjust rtp for what they want. Bro. This is a casino, stop all these. It is a casino. Yes, The originals are now very hard to play, but that's the essence of a casino. On 11/14/2023 at 7:57 PM, llama said: The OP has presented factual data and given his opinion on that, there is a clear distinction between the two. You however present your opinion as fact. There are only two reasons for doing this1: Ignorance you don't know the difference between the two. or 2: Intentional you intentionally confuse the two in order to influence player's here. In the case of Ignorance, education is your only option. I suggest you don't give advice to anyone until you learn the difference between fact and opinion and how to present either or both. If it's Intentional then you have vested interests which are undeclared, Whatever you post can not be seen as either factual or objective. Which places a large question mark over anything you post. You are just blabbing. Stake is a casino. STAKE IS A CASINO. There is no casino in the world that was build to give free money to anyone, before you can do that you have to work for it.. Stake is a casino with most originals with a 1% edge. They will always have advantage over you as the player. Don't be a sissy. And face reality. Stop all these show of ignorance and stupidity and face the issue here. Stake won't give you free money while playing. Work for it.
pp56708 Posted November 17, 2023 #27 Posted November 17, 2023 Not to give the advertised RTP (enhanced RTP ) IS basically a fraud. But Stake ist now in a very silly Position, because now to raise RTP to a fair Level would be to obvious. So i think IT will stay in that Minimum Level cause people pay in anyway
llama Posted November 17, 2023 #28 Posted November 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, Bimfo said: There is no casino in the world that was build to give free money to anyone, before you can do that you have to work for it. Don't be a sissy. And face reality. Stop all these show of ignorance and stupidity and face the issue here.Stake won't give you free money while playing. Work for it. Glorius Leader disagrees offers $41 million reasons as to why you are wrong.
N8erade91 Posted November 17, 2023 #29 Posted November 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Bimfo said: Bro. This is a casino, stop all these. It is a casino. Yes, The originals are now very hard to play, but that's the essence of a casino. You are just blabbing. Stake is a casino. STAKE IS A CASINO. There is no casino in the world that was build to give free money to anyone, before you can do that you have to work for it.. Stake is a casino with most originals with a 1% edge. They will always have advantage over you as the player. Don't be a sissy. And face reality. Stop all these show of ignorance and stupidity and face the issue here. Stake won't give you free money while playing. Work for it. Originals are now hard to play? Okay so you admit it can be adjusted. Therefore people’s complaints about stake messing with rtp is valid. Thx
Bimfo Posted November 17, 2023 #30 Posted November 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, N8erade91 said: Originals are now hard to play? Okay so you admit it can be adjusted. Therefore people’s complaints about stake messing with rtp is valid. Thx Let us say I agree, but that is what a casino is built for. They want to take your money. I know the way Dice takes my money these days is a very painful endeavour, but do I expect less from stake? No! Stake is a business. They will always do things that will make the House to always win. And Yes, I agree with you that stake have messed most of the originals gameplay up.
jungl3 Posted November 17, 2023 #31 Posted November 17, 2023 56 minutes ago, Bimfo said: Let us say I agree, but that is what a casino is built for. They want to take your money. I know the way Dice takes my money these days is a very painful endeavour, but do I expect less from stake? No! Stake is a business. They will always do things that will make the House to always win. And Yes, I agree with you that stake have messed most of the originals gameplay up. A casino is a business and it wants to make money - no shit. That's not news to anybody. There's a massive difference between making money from house edge and making money from rigging house games, collusion with scumbag slot providers to have a lower RTP than displayed and to be shady in whatever other ways. None of these things are confirmed, but a lot of people on this forum have their suspicions. Can there be smoke without fire..is everybody here a bad loser despite not complaining about ripping on fiat casinos in the past.. who knows.. One is what we all signed up for and accepted, but the other is a massive deception, which would quite possibly be an international criminal conspiracy that has stolen hundreds of millions or billions of dollars. Pragmatic used to have a different name, but changed it due to some controversies that were never resolved. Yggdrasil was removed from stake and some of their games rebranded for allegedly scamming (zero recompense to players who played the slots and no official message about it so far as I'm aware). It's not black and white, so don't try to end a discussion with a bullshit simplification. This may or may not be biased, but the entire article is an interesting read. From a site called CasinoListings.
Bimfo Posted November 18, 2023 #32 Posted November 18, 2023 20 hours ago, jungl3 said: A casino is a business and it wants to make money - no shit. That's not news to anybody. There's a massive difference between making money from house edge and making money from rigging house games, collusion with scumbag slot providers to have a lower RTP than displayed and to be shady in whatever other ways. None of these things are confirmed, but a lot of people on this forum have their suspicions. Can there be smoke without fire..is everybody here a bad loser despite not complaining about ripping on fiat casinos in the past.. who knows.. One is what we all signed up for and accepted, but the other is a massive deception, which would quite possibly be an international criminal conspiracy that has stolen hundreds of millions or billions of dollars. Pragmatic used to have a different name, but changed it due to some controversies that were never resolved. Yggdrasil was removed from stake and some of their games rebranded for allegedly scamming (zero recompense to players who played the slots and no official message about it so far as I'm aware). It's not black and white, so don't try to end a discussion with a bullshit simplification. This may or may not be biased, but the entire article is an interesting read. From a site called CasinoListings. Apart from the insult. This is an eye opener and it is educative. Thanks.
whippyPENIS Posted November 18, 2023 #33 Posted November 18, 2023 That is very unlucky! Those losses must have went to another player 😂
mylo Posted November 27, 2023 #34 Posted November 27, 2023 On 11/15/2023 at 4:08 AM, jungl3 said: Being on stake has ruined a lot of lives. I don't think the majority of people have enough self control or discipline to not become addicted to gambling, especially when it's gamified with level ups and reloads, urgency to wager before Saturday so you can have a lottery level chance to win a paltry $5k, etc. I dunno man.. I know that we need to lay blame on ourselves to get past it, but it's a disgusting and predatory industry. Add to that the possibility that all is not as it's said to be, and then you've really got a crime against humanity. ============ You responded to my post before somebody at stake deleted it. The 2nd or 3rd comment deletion in the past day. No explanation why, nobody showing their face. Somebody didn't check for replies and it's there for everybody to see that the message is deleted. Is it because I mentioned Serbia, land of the fragile ego? Censorship is some weak shit. Damn.. that's kinda messed up. You're right though. Clear as can be.
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