Nothing is rigged, it's just maths

[T1TO]

I see people crying about stake originals being rigged, i think most of the people dont know about expected value and how maths work

EXPECTED VALUE => The expected value (EV) in gambling is a measure that reflects the average outcome of a betting or gambling event over the long run. It's a way for individuals to assess the potential gain or loss associated with a particular bet or game. Stake's Originals have -0.01% expected value of ur bet (btw its much better than the negative expected value from slots), that means if u bet 100$ a spin the math says u will lose 1$ the spin.

another example if you have 50% of win chance in a long term(100k - 1m) Bets its gonna be always 50%wins and 50%losses. SEEDS doesnt matter EITHER!!!!!!!!

i have tested with a bot in the same seed FOR DAAAYS probably 1m spins and the math is exacly how it is supposed to be.

 

edit: to calculate the expected value example u play with 50% win chance

P(Win)⋅Profit + P⋅(Lose) = 0.5 x 0.98 + 0.5 x (-1) = -0.01

 

At the beggining its always the luck but in the long term its ALWAYS gonna be the expected value!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Edited December 23, 2023 by T1TO

[hekmlk]

Exacly.

[paruwa]

yes ofc mathematician... Einstein tell me about this

 

When i bet 1$ per round dice went 10 times in 100 bets under 98.... then i switched for that to grab some 50x over 98 = 2% chance of win... suddenly in fucking 300 bets didn't hit, can you explain me that ? 

Edited January 5, 2024 by paruwa

[Bestluckisback]

Good luck guys and have fun

[stuckmojo]

6 minutes ago, paruwa said:

yes ofc mathematician... Einstein tell me about this

 

When i bet 1$ per round dice went 10 times in 100 bets under 98.... then i switched for that to grab some 50x over 98 = 2% chance of win... suddenly in fucking 300 bets didn't hit, can you explain me that ? 

You hit the wall for wager...happens everytime 

[bly619]

45 minutes ago, paruwa said:

yes ofc mathematician... Einstein tell me about this

 

When i bet 1$ per round dice went 10 times in 100 bets under 98.... then i switched for that to grab some 50x over 98 = 2% chance of win... suddenly in fucking 300 bets didn't hit, can you explain me that ? 

Lol the statistics and what you said literally seems accurate. You should have kept riding the under 98 train since you stayed in profit during 100 bets if u didn’t switch it too 50x  you would have made good money on your seed since you didn’t hit the 98 for 300 bets.  Just depends on the seed bro. I’ve had a couple seeds where there was peroid of time where I didn’t stop winning  recently cud have hit 9900x back to back (of course I wasn’t going for that lol) 

 

Trust me I’ve been there with frustration more than handful of times screaming saying shit feels rigged lol (mainly when I gotten sketchy lags playing mines or some shit, have seen people post multiple  rigged theory’s but I treat it as conspiracy theory  since I’m not educated enough in that field to really validate anything I’ve read)

[sportfanaatje]

totally bs and I have the proof. I have a bot that logs wins/losses. Did series of 100 rounds of 250 bets on dice and limbo starting every round a new seed. On average the rtp for limbo was 94.49% and 95,63% with dice. All data filed and stored of course. 

[Sloteer]

also the amount of rolls/spins matters, if it's measured on thosands and not hundreds, even these 50% can be greater on one side of W's or L's it all depends on few aspects.

[R1mfire]

Everything is rigged if ur losing 😄

[memolan]

Surely

[Hamil14]

I am also wondering that there is logical reason on how the lost/deposit to be computed to when you will win a huge amount of money.

[coryd]

Probability theory can surely help, nothing is ever guarantee though. For example I've run 75k dice rolls on this seed currently, there's 2 numbers that haven't appeared, 16.95 and 83.34, which if those were either 0.00 or 100.00 and you were hunting a 9900x, you'd definitely be screwed. But looking at occurrences of 0.00 - 0.99 there's 740 and for 99.01 - 100.00 there's 758, just about what you'd expect after 75k rolls. But that's to be expected when it comes to the law of large numbers, we could extrapolate from that though and assume that say after ~375 dice rolls without an appearance of a 1% odds, the probability of one in the next 375 is pretty good, that's when I like to go in.

[ah72178shj]

thats how gambling and casinos work they have to make money somehow lol

[Drshado22]

always 

[PAGANSS]

The odds are 49 to 51 Where the big one is the casino. It's not a secret to anyone.

[resqueman]

Agree

[T1TO]

On 1/6/2024 at 4:19 PM, JohnReese said:

yeah sure, stake is %100 fair. idiot

I mean ofc they can stage some plays with popular youtubers to make them win a lot of money, BUT U FUCKING IDIOT they dont have to rig a game u ALWAYS gonna lose anyways fuck this guys r so stupid

On 1/5/2024 at 1:25 AM, paruwa said:

yes ofc mathematician... Einstein tell me about this

 

When i bet 1$ per round dice went 10 times in 100 bets under 98.... then i switched for that to grab some 50x over 98 = 2% chance of win... suddenly in fucking 300 bets didn't hit, can you explain me that ? 

dont gamble ur logic is like a 10yo child

On 1/6/2024 at 6:56 PM, PAGANSS said:

The odds are 49 to 51 Where the big one is the casino. It's not a secret to anyone.

u r right

On 1/5/2024 at 2:41 AM, sportfanaatje said:

totally bs and I have the proof. I have a bot that logs wins/losses. Did series of 100 rounds of 250 bets on dice and limbo starting every round a new seed. On average the rtp for limbo was 94.49% and 95,63% with dice. All data filed and stored of course. 

i had a bot that run on the same seed for probably 1mil bets and i was logging the losing streaks example 1time of 1 losing streak 2times of 2 losing streaks and so on and the numbers was exacly how they should be

Edited January 13, 2024 by T1TO

[EddieJeanShorts]

On 12/23/2023 at 3:59 PM, T1TO said:

I see people crying about stake originals being rigged, i think most of the people dont know about expected value and how maths work

EXPECTED VALUE => The expected value (EV) in gambling is a measure that reflects the average outcome of a betting or gambling event over the long run. It's a way for individuals to assess the potential gain or loss associated with a particular bet or game. Stake's Originals have -0.01% expected value of ur bet (btw its much better than the negative expected value from slots), that means if u bet 100$ a spin the math says u will lose 1$ the spin.

another example if you have 50% of win chance in a long term(100k - 1m) Bets its gonna be always 50%wins and 50%losses. SEEDS doesnt matter EITHER!!!!!!!!

i have tested with a bot in the same seed FOR DAAAYS probably 1m spins and the math is exacly how it is supposed to be.

 

edit: to calculate the expected value example u play with 50% win chance

P(Win)⋅Profit + P⋅(Lose) = 0.5 x 0.98 + 0.5 x (-1) = -0.01

 

At the beggining its always the luck but in the long term its ALWAYS gonna be the expected value!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

You’re missing a key point. Stake can do whatever the hell it wants to their software because no regulatory body is overseeing their operation.

 

Ive been gambling for a long time and I know how these sites operate. I also have thousands of hours of gameplay on stake. My EV in some original games is close to mathematically impossible.   

Edited January 13, 2024 by EddieJeanShorts

[Adumbobi]

Delusional 

[turtlebetss]

On 1/4/2024 at 8:41 PM, sportfanaatje said:

totally bs and I have the proof. I have a bot that logs wins/losses. Did series of 100 rounds of 250 bets on dice and limbo starting every round a new seed. On average the rtp for limbo was 94.49% and 95,63% with dice. All data filed and stored of course. 

not big enough sample size.. get back to me when you do 1000 rounds of 1,000,000 bets.

[apox1337]

In theory, it should work, but in practice, it's quite different. So, have you tested it with a bot over a million bets? I would like to see that. Could you also tell us which bot you used for the test? You must have screenshots, and of course, the bet IDs for those million bets. 😁

Your theory is just plain shittalk😅

Edited January 14, 2024 by apox1337

[Hatsuuke]

i got x2k

[roboshocker]

On 1/14/2024 at 2:35 PM, Jeebus said:

whoever plays stake originals is completely braindead

originals were made by sister IT company of stake, just like provably fair system for which they hired (PAID!) a romanian company 

just like they are “verified” by Crypto Gambling Foundation - which was founded by Edward himself, the owner of Stake

it’s all a nicely wrapped 💩

It sounds like you're bitter over losses. I am positive from smart betting and sensible attitudes towards losses. I suggest you stop gambling.

[jabrig]

Thats right

[Jeebus]

2 hours ago, roboshocker said:

It sounds like you're bitter over losses. I am positive from smart betting and sensible attitudes towards losses. I suggest you stop gambling.

This was your reply. From a bot with less posts on forum then fingers 🤣🤣 gtfo