Tipping Large in Public

[77kdub]

I agree with raven I've always thought it was just to show off and torture the beggars I mean I know not everyone does it for that reason but the ones who do it multiple times I myself prefer private tips it eliminates a lot of pm begs and just less drama I guess.

[irawk0]

I believe this entire thread is pointless akin to asking "Do you like the weather?" since the "banking system" update is very nearly completed:

You've also already covered ALL the possible points for why someone would tip their bank acc publicly (either bug with private tip or want to show off to attract passive beggars)

In conclusion I believe the sole purpose of this thread is to gain forum satoshis.

On 10/24/2018 at 4:40 PM, Dan said:

We are removing reasons for people to create alts. For example:

• When there's no marketplace or way for people to scam each other, then there's no reason to create alts to hide behind.
• When you cant spam people to phish or offer fake rakeback schemes to other sites, then no need to create alts.
• When stealing someones password no longer gives you access to their funds, no need to an alt.
• When a banking system exists, no need for an alt.

All these things are very very close to being completed.

[Etude]

1 hour ago, irawk0 said:

I believe this entire thread is pointless akin to asking "Do you like the weather?" since the "banking system" update is very nearly completed:

You've also already covered ALL the possible points for why someone would tip their bank acc publicly (either bug with private tip or want to show off to attract passive beggars)

In conclusion I believe the sole purpose of this thread is to gain forum satoshis.

Thats a rather accusational thing to say. o_O

[irawk0]

30 minutes ago, Etude said:

Thats a rather accusational thing to say. o_O

Not an accusation, more of a pointing out the truth because no one else will because everyone else is trying to earn satoshis without real contributions. Emphasis on REAL.

Mind telling me which part of my post was untrue? Literally tired of people seeing a thread, posting their reply on said thread, then go and recreate another thread basically copy-pasting whatever they just said to make a "new" thread. 

Remember when Doge was updated to Stake? How many topics were there about Doge along the lines of "hey guys what do you think of Doge coming to Stake?" If ANY of them bothered to do a SIMPLE search option (I know! that option exists), they would find another identical thread where they can post their thoughts without cluttering the forums. 

Now we get Dan's post hinting at an upcoming update, and all of a sudden a new thread is made when the answer has already been posted. 

I get it, we all want free satoshis. But it seems I'm the only one who cares about a de-cluttered forum where each thread is UNIQUE, and worth reading/browsing over, and I'm the only one who thinks copy-pasting or a simple "what do you guys think...?" thread should not only NOT get satoshis but be met with infractions.

If you really want to dig, I recommend you compile a list of ALL topics concerning Doge, find which people posted on ALL the threads, when one would've sufficed. But I don't think we can do that since Support probably removed most of them.

Edit: from my timezone, it seems Dan's post was about 27hrs ago from now. This thread was created 22hrs ago. Coincidence? You be the judge of that.

Edit2: OP actually replied to Dan on that other thread 22hrs ago, there is absolutely no need to create this thread (almost immediately after, btw) when all the responses could've been contained in only 1.

22 hours ago, williamshennie9 said:

 

I'm so glad to hear that alts will no longer be allowed soon  This will be awesome!

[jualid]

Actually you can just untick "Make tip public" and done, no one know your tipping  

[williamshennie9]

3 hours ago, irawk0 said:

I believe this entire thread is pointless akin to asking "Do you like the weather?" since the "banking system" update is very nearly completed:

You've also already covered ALL the possible points for why someone would tip their bank acc publicly (either bug with private tip or want to show off to attract passive beggars)

In conclusion I believe the sole purpose of this thread is to gain forum satoshis.

What is your problem? This section of the forum is a discussion section, where we should "discuss" anything and everything to do with Stake. As long as it is within the scope of Stake it is allowed here. With your logic, 99% of the posts here are to gain forum satoshis, since they are discussions, not official "contributions". This forum would be a pretty boring place if no discussions took place, and only news, techniques etc. were published.

This post in particular was to get people talking and ideas flowing, which it did. So I think this was a valuable post, even if it just got a few Stake members to engage (which is the essence of a successful community).

So next time you want to criticize a post like this, think about the community aspect of the forum, and keep your own agenda at bay.

[irawk0]

3 hours ago, williamshennie9 said:

What is your problem? This section of the forum is a discussion section, where we should "discuss" anything and everything to do with Stake. As long as it is within the scope of Stake it is allowed here. With your logic, 99% of the posts here are to gain forum satoshis, since they are discussions, not official "contributions". This forum would be a pretty boring place if no discussions took place, and only news, techniques etc. were published.

This post in particular was to get people talking and ideas flowing, which it did. So I think this was a valuable post, even if it just got a few Stake members to engage (which is the essence of a successful community).

So next time you want to criticize a post like this, think about the community aspect of the forum, and keep your own agenda at bay.

My contribution is a criticism  IMO your thread useless. Obviously you think differently. Any so called "ideas" were already both stated in OP and settled by the upcoming update. I feel like you read Dan's post, replied for satoshis (which I don't mind at all) but what I DO mind is you then making an entirely separate thread, fully knowing the bank update will render your discussion moot. 

For example, assuming you know the date faucet is getting removed, then immediately makes a thread saying "why do you use faucet". See what I mean?

The community aspect of the forum is to talk and get ideas flowing, yes, but NOT to have two threads talking about the same thing, separating ideas and opinions, making it 2x harder to gather ideas for Devs. Everyone responding to the previous thread regarding alts is more than sufficient. 

A valuable post is something unique and interesting that's not already covered by someone else. Yes the forum would be a pretty boring place, but at least that will push people to come up with new and original threads instead of getting everyone to experience deja vu all the time thinking "didn't I read and responded to a similar thread a couple days ago?"

As to OP: you provided both answers why people tip bank accounts publicly (unable to tip privately + showing off). If you just wanted a consensus I believe a poll would've worked just as well, which is to say not much since I doubt everyone who uses bank alts are actively perusing the forums therefore results are not reliable at all.

If you really wanted to talk on forums and make it active (first of all why not chat in the chatroom?) I believe there is an off-topic section

P.S. I LOVE how as soon as you come under criticism and feel like you got "called out" you immediately withdrew all your 1m+ forum satoshis. That's comparable to some unpleasant things I'd rather not bring into this

P.P.S. Just went back to the other thread, and noticed you skim-reading. Dan said there will be few reasons to create alts, yet you answered "I'm so glad to hear that alts will no longer be allowed soon" Please understand the difference between "not allowed" and "removing reasons to create alts". I'm pretty sure alts are still allowed to be made, just pointless very soon.

[Owly]

3 hours ago, williamshennie9 said:

99% of the posts here are to gain forum satoshis

.

That is all.

[williamshennie9]

1 hour ago, irawk0 said:

fully knowing the bank update will render your discussion moot

The bank update has not been implemented yet and could take weeks more before it is implemented. In addition, the chat is filled with users tipping their banks - so even if having a bank will be pointless in the future, it is currently now in use and worth talking about.

1 hour ago, irawk0 said:

A valuable post is something unique and interesting that's not already covered by someone else. Yes the forum would be a pretty boring place, but at least that will push people to come up with new and original threads instead of getting everyone to experience deja vu all the time thinking "didn't I read and responded to a similar thread a couple days ago?"

And also, this type of post has NOT been created before (discussing public vs private tipping). So by saying that you've read this somewhere can't be true, and if this has been already spoken about, please send me a link. I would love to read that article and I will duly apologize if it has already been created.

1 hour ago, irawk0 said:

P.S. I LOVE how as soon as you come under criticism and feel like you got "called out" you immediately withdrew all your 1m+ forum satoshis. That's comparable to some unpleasant things I'd rather not bring into this

I withdrew my balance because I can't stand how people like you associate me, who is very active on the forum, with someone who is just there to get satoshis. My balance was a reflection on my contributions to this forum, and it probably triggers people like you into thinking a post useless topics and comments to get satoshis. So the reason I withdrew it, was to stop people like you into associating me with posting "useless" or "irrelevant" topics on the forum. And yes, in discussion thread, not everything has to be valuable, some posts are merely discussion posts. Sometimes, I am allowed to reply to a discussion post or give my input on an idea, or comment on something that Dan fixed in Stake. What did you want me to do? Send Dan a PM and say thank you? Your logic makes no sense.

1 hour ago, irawk0 said:

.P.S. Just went back to the other thread, and noticed you skim-reading. Dan said there will be few reasons to create alts, yet you answered "I'm so glad to hear that alts will no longer be allowed soon" Please understand the difference between "not allowed" and "removing reasons to create alts". I'm pretty sure alts are still allowed to be made, just pointless very soon.

I'm really sorry that my reading skills are not as good as yours, and that I interpreted that post differently. I'm sure your teachers at school were very proud of your good reading skills. We are not all experts in reading, and in this case I just interpreted it another way.

I hope that addressed your concerns, and I hope you find another post to criticize and call the users out

[irawk0]

On 10/26/2018 at 1:46 AM, williamshennie9 said:

The bank update has not been implemented yet and could take weeks more before it is implemented. In addition, the chat is filled with users tipping their banks - so even if having a bank will be pointless in the future, it is currently now in use and worth talking about.

And also, this type of post has NOT been created before (discussing public vs private tipping). So by saying that you've read this somewhere can't be true, and if this has been already spoken about, please send me a link. I would love to read that article and I will duly apologize if it has already been created.

I withdrew my balance because I can't stand how people like you associate me, who is very active on the forum, with someone who is just there to get satoshis. My balance was a reflection on my contributions to this forum, and it probably triggers people like you into thinking a post useless topics and comments to get satoshis. So the reason I withdrew it, was to stop people like you into associating me with posting "useless" or "irrelevant" topics on the forum. And yes, in discussion thread, not everything has to be valuable, some posts are merely discussion posts. Sometimes, I am allowed to reply to a discussion post or give my input on an idea, or comment on something that Dan fixed in Stake. What did you want me to do? Send Dan a PM and say thank you? Your logic makes no sense.

I'm really sorry that my reading skills are not as good as yours, and that I interpreted that post differently. I'm sure your teachers at school were very proud of your good reading skills. We are not all experts in reading, and in this case I just interpreted it another way.

I hope that addressed your concerns, and I hope you find another post to criticize and call the users out

1. Chat filled with users tipping their banks is due to two reasons which you've already answered in the OP

2. This EXACT type of post has not been created before, yes. However, it NEVER should be created imo, for the simple reason it's redundant. Would you like me to create a topic "what's 1+1?" and underneath say "I know it's 2, what do you guys think?"

3. I never said all your forum "contributions" are worthless since I cannot be bothered to dig. I merely commented on the coincidence. You getting extremely defensive simply confirmed my point, tyvm

3a. I believe you by-passed the "sending Dan a PM" part by gaining satoshis with replying on another thread  Please use your eyes and read what I wrote, I'm ok with you replying, NOT in the next minute jumping on the bandwagon and posting a very similar thread when everything could've been included in your reply.

4. It's ok, not everyone has the time. Just pointing out that because I've noticed it's becoming rampant in this forum for everyone to skim-read the first 3 words, post a quick reply, then move on. I don't believe we are in the "read-on-the-go" part of forums, or if one even exists.

5. I will always call posts/threads/users out for what I believe are unnecessary/useless/redundant actions. I'm sorry if I hit a sore spot with you being so sensitive and all. I'm also sorry if I hit a nerve for calling out the truth.

P.S. This conversation has deviated away from original discussion which is a deviation from another thread. If you wish to persist in trying to defend yourself, contact me in PM. I will henceforth ignore anything else you say on this thread onward.

[Enzo]

I believe its just because users want to show off what theyre tipping. But I could be wrong. 

[FotisNt]

Well, many people just want to show off so it's their own fault I guess. Since there is an option for that, you choose if you''ll pm begged or not.

[davinmark]

i think its just a "Show off" things because maybe when they sent a large amount to another account, people will cheering and says "wow"  but i dont know, maybe they make some alt account because they didn't know about Vault ? 

[GKD09]

There could be many reasons why people have alts and will still use alts. One for sure is the roll hunts - you see plenty more online users during the telegram challenge. Could be users who just saw the Tele message, but I'm sure many of them are alts too. 

Also they could abuse rain by chatting with both - although its not allowed to and its a ban-able offense. How does support know its the same person? I'm sure there are some who do this on the low.

Yes, for sure they enable it as show public, just to flex a bit on their balance and I don't think thats wrong in any way. Let them do it who cares   What would be annoying is if they keep sending it back and forth publicly (spamming basically).

Also I don't think the public tipping should be disabled mainly because of roll hunts and trivias. Where it would be very easily visible to find the winner and makes it more transparent.  

[Hoffguy]

Well I don't tip my alts but I like tipping in chat lately small amounts but sometimes bigger , I think public tipping is fun not just for the tipper buy for the person getting tipped , shows they are loved  I never tipped my alts before, but I tipped @taytots bro alt before 🍻, my vote is for public tipping to stay. 🍾

[wngo123]

People who have bank accounts (it's no longer necessary because we have vault now on stake) have their accounts protected the same way like their main account, so i don't think there is a risk of getting bank account hacked if you follow all security rules. 

[Sped]

I don't think it really matters either way, because if the bank account is like named: Williamsbank or something like that, then they can find it easily by just doing the @ in chat and adding your first name to find it. Then they know just as much as they knew before, but if you add two-factor I believe you should be fine william!

[S1MPL3X]

to be honest i think showing Big tips in chat is kinda obnoxiose in my opinion its like lokk ate what u could of won idk maybe its just me being jealos lol but also theres a good side in everything even if its fucking anoyying

 

[hanvee]

On 10/25/2018 at 10:57 AM, williamshennie9 said:

Hey guys

So I know a lot of on have bank accounts on Stake, which we keep separate from our main account on Stake. And I've noticed a lot of people publicly tip their bank accounts, such that it appears in the chat.

What do you guys think about this? For me, I feel like it is a security risk, since your bank account holds a lot of funds (probably), and by revealing the username of your bank account in the chat, you effectively open the door for hackers to try and hack your bank account, especially since they now know your bank username.

Am I overthinking this? What do you guys think? Do you tip your bank publicly or privately? I would love to hear!

i really dont like ppl who tip alt in public like wanna show off but they also take risk , ppl gonna looking at that bank account with huge tip ,... and they just made ppl jelly about the money and made greedy inside us awake and then they yelling us ppl begging... if dont wanna get beg so dont show off ! can do it private instead tho

[Aazzah]

I think they do this to obviously show off that they have money and they do it to rub it in peoples faces in my opinion. I always put it on private because I know how it feels to not have money and people showing off. I think they should disable public tipping as well. This would resolve it.

[Burgerwcheese]

On 10/24/2018 at 10:57 PM, williamshennie9 said:

Hey guys

So I know a lot of on have bank accounts on Stake, which we keep separate from our main account on Stake. And I've noticed a lot of people publicly tip their bank accounts, such that it appears in the chat.

What do you guys think about this? For me, I feel like it is a security risk, since your bank account holds a lot of funds (probably), and by revealing the username of your bank account in the chat, you effectively open the door for hackers to try and hack your bank account, especially since they now know your bank username.

Am I overthinking this? What do you guys think? Do you tip your bank publicly or privately? I would love to hear!

I would say you are definitely over thinking this, especially since if its your bank you should have 2FA and a damn strong pw on there...making it pretty much impossible to get in.  But of course there's always gonna be that worry in the back of your mind no matter how much security you have...Some people just like to look flashy and throw crypto around, let em be flashy.

[polor12]

-lol this post was dated to now in 2019.. the tip that is being sent to other players or to the bank..and how to have it known in chat is very funny.,they want to show how much they are sending to their alts or to other players. and wonder why people pm or send them FR.. is not like they dont know how to use the private tip.. is easy just uncheck the the box from the beginning.. or at one point if you want it to be notice you check it. so who ever is tipping dont complain and askj why players pm you for tips and tags you..you wanted to be known and there you are, you are known, they done it purposely, 

[blueprints]

Yeah your overthinking this with a side of paranoia lol. If you have a good hefty duty military grade latex free password and 2fa set then you should have nothing to worry about! and As long as you dont submit your credentials on a site that is not stake, and then give your 2fa then you cant be haxered. if you are then you can probably hold steak responsible and they will probablky halp you in those times. 

[Jakubb]

I believe this was written back a while ago, when we still didn't have 2FA (to be honest i'm probably wrong) but anyways.

I don't think tipping large in public is something that could cause a security risk UNLESS you're not being secure enough (2FA comes in the highlight now)
With 2FA, it nearly makes it impossible to get hacked, mostly by an amateur. So yeah, I think tipping large in Public is not good, because all the spam it causes and other shit, but not because it's a real "security issue".

[williamshennie9]

On 6/24/2019 at 5:48 PM, Burgerwcheese said:

I would say you are definitely over thinking this, especially since if its your bank you should have 2FA and a damn strong pw on there...making it pretty much impossible to get in.  But of course there's always gonna be that worry in the back of your mind no matter how much security you have...Some people just like to look flashy and throw crypto around, let em be flashy.

Yeah, I guess you are right. With 2fa it is nearly impossible for any hacker to gain access to your account. However, if people know you have tipped 1btc to your bank for example, they might have an increased incentive to try hack the account.