Why Stake have not set fair standard for all players?

[tae40127]

First of all i need to know the standard of treatment all member that we doubt?

- the vip class why stake not set the target of wage and reward that all people can do the same and get the same it will fair for all right not use the words depend on bla bla bla .......

- weekly  reload using the word depend again and if set should set the standard for make all player know what they can get and how much they can 

-Mega boost too how people get different each people how it count it counts from wage ? or lose bet? if lose stake can notice that it cash back or smts that include with .......

- the sentence that use in term of the player benefit is very not clear that no one know what how when why the benefit that we can get and what we need to do  

So i think if stake is fair casino it should fair for all people treatment that have the standard that all player can know the minimum that what they can earn if what they do

[wry]

Just because everything is not disclosed does not mean it is unfair.  Your title suggests unfair treatment, but Stake would be craze to specify everything in public.  It would make it too easy for competitors and people who wanted to exploit the system. 

Now if Stake was a government agency, you would have a point, disclosure would be only way to make sure it's fair, but Stake is not a government agency, though I fear a few people use it as a form of income, it's a private business.  So it may need to change rewards from time to time and have its own secret methods of rewarding players.

No one forces you to play here.  The point is to have fun, not milk the reward system.  If you don't feel like you are being treated well, or don't like that everything isn't disclosed, there are dozens, scores even, of other sites on the web where you can play.  However, you'll be hard pressed to find a more generous site.

Good Luck!

[Rigster]

It's known information that you recieve approximately 50% of the house edge (normally 1%) back in benefits. Wager more, more bonus. What's so complicated about that?

[Ali saher]

I also so confused about that what is requirements for weekly and monthly bonuses. I think 2,3 months before stake give good amount bonus but day by day stake bonus amount going very down. And this time in my opinion stake all team and owners all focus on forum challenges even just very few users participate these challenges. And this challenges money cutting our weekly bonus , monthly bonus and reffle commission now reffle commission also very low. And a new user see the benefits amount not see how much challenges you post on forum.

[Xylber]

I agree about the reward system got too complex, with too many levels and sometimes it is not very clear about them all.
But it is not unfair, all the opposite, the system rewards the players who invest more time and money on the website, with prizes that increase according to the betting power of the player.

 

3 hours ago, wry said:

No one forces you to play here.  The point is to have fun, not milk the reward system.  If you don't feel like you are being treated well, or don't like that everything isn't disclosed, there are dozens, scores even, of other sites on the web where you can play.  However, you'll be hard pressed to find a more generous site.

Well, that statement looks too innocent. Casinos exists because people wish to multiply their money... in exchange their risk their own money. Asking to the people to give up their wishes to "get more money" in the name of "fun" is as ridiculous as pretending that the casino itself "give up" they business, set up the house edge to 0% in the name of fun.

Moreover, the reason Stake (or any casino or business) gives those "VIP only rewards" and "Races" and bonuses is to entice people to bet more, to get more prizes risking more money... it is not "a gift" given by the casino, it is not "generosity", it is a marketing strategy. 

In simpler words: no greed, no casino. No rewards, less clients.

[Nicol3]

This is a very interesting topic being discussed here indeed. In all fairness to Stake, I believe they have been fair and generous with regard to rewarding each player. I believe each VIP even if they are of the same level like Bronze, aren't receiving the same amount of rewards because someone could just leave a bronze account inactive and create a new one and reach bronze and receive the same amount of rewards even if it is inactive. I think the weekly boost are based on wagering prior to receiving the bonuses. It is not about deposits, lost amounts or level of VIP. 

[sheenazbay]

I think stake is very fair. what we can depends on our account level. and that does not mean that every user who has the same level will get the same bonus. it all depends on the wager. so in my opinion stake is fair.

[Thepug]

8 hours ago, wry said:

Just because everything is not disclosed does not mean it is unfair.  Your title suggests unfair treatment, but Stake would be craze to specify everything in public.  It would make it too easy for competitors and people who wanted to exploit the system. 

Now if Stake was a government agency, you would have a point, disclosure would be only way to make sure it's fair, but Stake is not a government agency, though I fear a few people use it as a form of income, it's a private business.  So it may need to change rewards from time to time and have its own secret methods of rewarding players.

No one forces you to play here.  The point is to have fun, not milk the reward system.  If you don't feel like you are being treated well, or don't like that everything isn't disclosed, there are dozens, scores even, of other sites on the web where you can play.  However, you'll be hard pressed to find a more generous site.

Good Luck!

You couldn’t have said it better. What I have seen a lot before are poorer people (no offence trying to be put out here), that think that they deserve high rewards from a site.

People need to remember that a casino is a BUSINESS and not a CHARITY. There is no point in giving out a tonne of money to the players that haven’t put in a lot, because the return on investment will simply be minuscule for them.

At the end of the day, just appreciate any rewards that we get, and don’t question or present dissatisfaction from them.

[Ayesha0770]

Why should be unfair if the one who's the same stats of VIP wager more enough than you? That's how it works wager to gain more be glad that stake gives out a bonus for every player than nothing

[evet]

I see no unfair treatment at stake, if you are talking about how some VIP members gets higher bonus, coupons, boosts or reload it is because they work hard for it. Let's say they got to platinum and they still wager so much then they will get more. It's a fair treatment of stake, you work hard you get more. I don't really get what you are referring to as "unfair treatment". 

[aLQui1210]

its normal in gambling

its fair here @ stake.com compare to other site.. especially when it comes to live support service... you can get what ur asking and very fast in replies

 

[Seoulmate]

Stake are experimenting,  innovating, adapting as they grow and change.

Stake need to be agile and responsive to change in a highly competitive sector, so not everything can be carved in stone. That's just the way it is.

When the team are sure something is working well, and it is cost effective. They can then afford to be explicit about procedures and policies.

Until then I suggest you buckle up,  and enjoy the ride, the stake train ain't stopping anytime soon.

[Etude]

In a way that I see it is that the rewards we get such as bonuses and reloads commensurate with the amounts we contribute to Stake which the key variable being Wagered amount either weekly or monthly. I do not think equality large bonuses frequently for all is a sustainable idea at all for a business which is not a charitable organization.

[kayke94]

yeah i still dont understand why people complain about all the things that stake gives away for to us all for just playing here.

iknow for sure none of the other casinos is as generous as stake is

[Zaynab Shah]

You said everyone should get equal. Seriously? A platinum Vip who wagers 10 btc in a week. And another platinum vip who wagered 1 or let suppose 2 btc in a week, you really think it'll be fair to give same amounts to both of them? 

Secondly, Everything is not clearly mentioned, but still it's pretty obvious how it's calculated. 

Your question doesn't makes sense at all. 

Are you trying to ask How much you should risk in order to get a certain amount of Reload / Coupon? 

Well if that's what you trying to do, Lemme make it a bit clear. 

The amounts you get from Coupons and Reloads are NOT REWARDS. 

That's something like a cash back. 

And firstly they are not bound nor obligated to give extra cash back despite that they're already giving instant rakeback too. Yet still if we have such perks of Reloads and Coupons, That's a thing which should be treated like an extra delight. Or like when you are served desert after your meal for the extra treat. 

Secondly, they're not supposed to help people with their loss. 

Yet still they give Reloads Hourly/Daily as well as coupons. For players to cope up with their loss. 

By saying it should be clearly mentioned, Are you asking that You should know how much you need to risk and bet and possibly lose to get for example $1 every hour from reload? 

Well then you're really not trying to play for profit. But trying to get your INCOME generated by this system. 

It might even work for a short time. But chasing desired amounts of bonuses will often lead you to lose more in the process and won't be worth it. 

[jefke544]

I sent the same question to Eddie imo there is no logical rule for it. I wagered 3 times more than last week and lost more of course and still get the same amount.

[wyj1306]

It really is very confusing to know if you are being treated the same as other users, there are always people who think they are being devalued in relation to others, this happens everywhere, and I agree with @wry a Stake is under no obligation to disclose anything .

[Dp10011]

Some things are not clear. I agree! But when it comes to the rewards offered by the site, we just need to say thank you. No casino is committed to rewarding any player. And many players still complain about it?
I play a few out there that I bet much more than being a VIP and I never received anything there.

[cryptofly]

From the way I see it, the word "fair" is pretty much a synonym for Stake,  and before any can say the opposite (talking by myself) first should complete all the phases available in the site, form being a regular and ordinary gamer to the most high lever which is so far diamond VIP, and once you reach all the levels you can compare.  Your rewards will be according your effort to perform a good activity here.  

[Mahdirakib87]

Stake gives all coupon depending on user wager. If you wager much you will get higher amount in giveaway coupons. Cause stake is a casino and it gets profit from user wager depending on house edge. Stake isn't a free money pot. So nothing unfair here. 

[sahil777]

i dont think its unfair, if a person spending so much money here wether he is losing or winning, he desrve more bonuses and vip luxuries than a low depositor or roller, its very fair if someone is not wagering high and always like to play low why he get reward equally, bronze cant get reward like platinum, and its fair.

[Ayesha0770]

Looked again on this and still can't take this topic lol I don't know why but I don't think stake isn't really that unfair lol everyone should be glad for what stake can give (atleast they do give out some not like others)

[SLFJ]

Kinda agree with you but not at the same time, if everyone had the same things for let's say bronze then no one would go for silver and above, but about the bonuses, it would be good if it indicated them.

[Ali saher]

On 3/8/2020 at 11:39 AM, Zaynab Shah said:

You said everyone should get equal. Seriously? A platinum Vip who wagers 10 btc in a week. And another platinum vip who wagered 1 or let suppose 2 btc in a week, you really think it'll be fair to give same amounts to both of them? 

Secondly, Everything is not clearly mentioned, but still it's pretty obvious how it's calculated. 

Your question doesn't makes sense at all. 

Are you trying to ask How much you should risk in order to get a certain amount of Reload / Coupon? 

Well if that's what you trying to do, Lemme make it a bit clear. 

The amounts you get from Coupons and Reloads are NOT REWARDS. 

That's something like a cash back. 

And firstly they are not bound nor obligated to give extra cash back despite that they're already giving instant rakeback too. Yet still if we have such perks of Reloads and Coupons, That's a thing which should be treated like an extra delight. Or like when you are served desert after your meal for the extra treat. 

Secondly, they're not supposed to help people with their loss. 

Yet still they give Reloads Hourly/Daily as well as coupons. For players to cope up with their loss. 

By saying it should be clearly mentioned, Are you asking that You should know how much you need to risk and bet and possibly lose to get for example $1 every hour from reload? 

Well then you're really not trying to play for profit. But trying to get your INCOME generated by this system. 

It might even work for a short time. But chasing desired amounts of bonuses will often lead you to lose more in the process and won't be worth it. 

Very nice you explain everything about coupons or other bonuses I think you say right every bonuse,reload or other giveaway depends on your vip level and your wegar .if anybody play big amount wegar he received big but if play small amounts you received small amount bonuses.

[penikmattempik]

maybe because they use seed as a benchmark