andyez Posted February 5, 2022 #26 Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 2:58 AM, hungryharpy said: A lot of these changes seem to have a money-grab aspect to them that is making it less appealing to keep depositing on stake, and this includes everything from unanswered questions to shady moments. They're big enough now to hire an actual PR firm to take care of all the negative rumors/speculations/comments going on in order for them to have a cleaner name, but it's not happening. Yeah stake was my main place to play because of the great rewards but they have been scaling them back rapidly as other sites increase theirs. The gap is closing and I have less reason to play here over other places every day.
pascalwl3 Posted February 5, 2022 #27 Posted February 5, 2022 Yeah as far as I know reloads were permanent back in 2020. So even if you didn't wager at all you could get free money. I didn't know they changed that so that you can even lose your vip host and the reloads but thats really good to know!
hungryharpy Posted February 5, 2022 #28 Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, andyez said: Yeah stake was my main place to play because of the great rewards but they have been scaling them back rapidly as other sites increase theirs. The gap is closing and I have less reason to play here over other places every day. could you be so kind to share those other places? i might take a look tbh
pascalwl3 Posted February 5, 2022 #29 Posted February 5, 2022 @hungryharpyI am not sure if you are allowed to promote other casinos here?
hungryharpy Posted February 5, 2022 #30 Posted February 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, pascalwl3 said: @hungryharpyI am not sure if you are allowed to promote other casinos here? I mean, i see what you're saying. It was more like to see the comparison. You could be right.
crisulu Posted February 5, 2022 #31 Posted February 5, 2022 It's funny and ironically sad because I was almost plat 2 when they switched it to plat 3. Now that I am around 82% progress towards plat 3 they changed it to plat 4.
pascalwl3 Posted February 5, 2022 #32 Posted February 5, 2022 @crisuluIt is not worth it. If you don't wager a lot they take away your host and disable your reloads
DOUBLER209 Posted February 5, 2022 #33 Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 12:28 AM, Notnick3 said: Why dont they scale back the mlions they pay streamers ? How can I get pay from playing stake ? Streaming
Indhigoo Posted February 6, 2022 #34 Posted February 6, 2022 I understand that they have to do this because so many people reach plate 3 quite easily. but for myself in silver. However they need to change and provide top monthly for all eligible plates, I think all the rules for the better.
Bogdandobro Posted February 6, 2022 #35 Posted February 6, 2022 Бро дай бонус мелушки так хочется сыграть
SupItsJ Posted February 6, 2022 #36 Posted February 6, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 12:11 AM, TotoWolff said: it misleading: I joined stake a month ago under the current VIP-plan, been wagering to get close to plat 3 already, since the VIP-host is what Im looking for.. Now, without discussion), they change the rules again, while its not what I signed up for.. I totally understand where you are coming from, but you have to understand also this is a business and not a charity. Honestly P3 is tough for normal people who are playing only sometimes. But for players who are frequent, high roller, or advantaged players it really isnt too much to achieve. So, when you do reach that level, just know how much more of an accomplishment it really will be then and especially if you are in profit at that point. The problem is the current hosts have over 400 VIPs and once I had to wait 3 days to speak to a host. Which is stupid that I cant just open support chat and get what I need done to my account, or at minimum forwarded to someone designated to handle those. @Edwardis really great at answering PMs and he takes this business seriously, and treats all the players big and small with attention of any other. Glad that stake is doing so well because it is so much fun here compared to anywhere else.
TotoWolff Posted February 6, 2022 Author #37 Posted February 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, SupItsJ said: I totally understand where you are coming from, but you have to understand also this is a business and not a charity. Honestly P3 is tough for normal people who are playing only sometimes. But for players who are frequent, high roller, or advantaged players it really isnt too much to achieve. So, when you do reach that level, just know how much more of an accomplishment it really will be then and especially if you are in profit at that point. In profit? Is that possible? Ive already raised an official complaint with the conversation I had with the affiliate manager included about this misleading change. Will take this as far as I have to.
sourav14447 Posted February 6, 2022 #38 Posted February 6, 2022 levels are not worth the shot . just play safe and save your profit if you can
SupItsJ Posted February 6, 2022 #39 Posted February 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, TotoWolff said: In profit? Is that possible? Considering i never deposited 43k in bonuses technically im up 55k~ .... if this doesnt change your mind. My average deposit is $100-$300
pascalwl3 Posted February 6, 2022 #40 Posted February 6, 2022 @SupItsJNo without bonuses you would be 30k down lol. You are up 13k with the bonuses Edit: Hm okay I didn't know that. Guess I will check my statistics then
SupItsJ Posted February 6, 2022 #41 Posted February 6, 2022 @PascalNo, they count them against your losses. Lets say you claim a $100 weekly or whatever promotion, and bust, it will say $-100 .... So add bonuses to profit = actual losses. And I have downloaded my entire books to verify the deposit/withdraws and it adds up.
XeroF Posted February 6, 2022 #42 Posted February 6, 2022 The thing is I understand that they need to change it so Vip host dont get to much of a workload. They are growing fast and a vip host should be able to respond and help you within a couple of hours at most. So if it was only for that reason then its all fair and sqaure... However when they change the ”awards” you reiceve from getting to plat 3 they make it a money earning move. They are removing top monthly possibility for new plat 3 and keep it for old ones? Constant reloads are removed and adding 42 day reload. Obviously this will make them more money. If it was just for the workload on vip hosts they should had raised the amount you get when reaching plat 3 or something else to compensate for the constant reloads I think.
Bridgette013 Posted February 6, 2022 #43 Posted February 6, 2022 I’m nowhere near plat yet so my opinion doesn’t mean a lot. But the only way that this seems like an ethical business move is if they applies this new structure to newly joking members moving forward. It seems pretty janky to me to let people work all this time and money toward a goal and then say “just kidding” out of nowhere. The structure should apply as it is the day the member joins.
SupItsJ Posted February 7, 2022 #44 Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/6/2022 at 2:04 AM, TotoWolff said: In profit? Is that possible? after hitting this and
stab73 Posted February 7, 2022 #45 Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 3:58 AM, hungryharpy said: The fact that stake has grown so much lately makes it a good business decision for them and it was expected (and it's expected that in the future you'll get a vip host once you're diamond probably)... That being said, it would've been better/nicer if they applied these new rules to new accounts only. Moving the goal posts from time to time is expected, but the way stake has been handling their PR lately is poor. They're making changes while not listening to the community. Lately there has been a lot of chatting either here or discord servers about stake not listening/caring at all about their customers UNLESS they are diamond+... which again, I understand the business side of it, but it still sucks for all the smaller players. A lot of these changes seem to have a money-grab aspect to them that is making it less appealing to keep depositing on stake, and this includes everything from unanswered questions to shady moments. They're big enough now to hire an actual PR firm to take care of all the negative rumors/speculations/comments going on in order for them to have a cleaner name, but it's not happening. As everything else in life, if you got in early, you're in luck. I agree it would be nice if they did this for new accounts only. I am plat2 and won’t make it to 3 before changes 😞
pascalwl3 Posted February 7, 2022 #46 Posted February 7, 2022 @SupItsJAre you in profit overall on Stake? 9k profit in a month is not much for a Diamond 5 VIP. You wagered over 5 million dollars. Statistically at a house edge of around 1-4% you would be down 50k-200k ( Stake gives a lot of bonus so it would be realistically 25-100k)
Ervs888 Posted February 8, 2022 #48 Posted February 8, 2022 i guess my chance for that is little so tiny
SupItsJ Posted February 8, 2022 #49 Posted February 8, 2022 Ive been in profit since I came to stake, and on the last site I played also I broke even at least and left because it was clearly a scam based on things i observed over time. 2 years gambling and both years ended in profit by a lot. working on a 3rd.
YeetYeetYeet Posted February 9, 2022 #50 Posted February 9, 2022 They wouldn't have made the change unless they had to. Plat 3 is not a tricky goal so I can see why the change was made.
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