ikilic Posted April 16, 2022 #1 Posted April 16, 2022 casino:84994856670 and casino:84995329595 so who can tell me now what are the odds of this happenning within a 3 minute timeframe? this makes mit believe the rng system generating shit behind original seeds is not really rng at all. what the fuck is this?
dupeddonk Posted April 16, 2022 #2 Posted April 16, 2022 LIMBO: 84,995,329,595 placed by mrxdrop on 15/04/2022 Wagered 0.00000000 Multiplier 60000x Profit 0.00000000 LIMBO: 84,995,329,595 placed by mrxdrop on 15/04/2022 Wagered 0.00000000 Multiplier 60000x Profit 0.00000000 10 minutes ago, ikilic said: so who can tell me now what are the odds of this happenning within a 3 minute timeframe? Depends on how many bets are being made per minute. In this case you would, since it was someone else that hit it during a telegram challenge, you would need to estimate the number of players trying to hit it to figure out how many bets per minute. 12 minutes ago, ikilic said: his makes mit believe the rng system generating shit behind original seeds is not really rng at all. what the fuck is this? Luckily for you it's a provably fair system, with a little effort you can figure out how the whole thing works and test it whenever you want so you know there isn't any funny business going on. https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview
chastin Posted April 16, 2022 #4 Posted April 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, dupeddonk said: LIMBO: 84,995,329,595 placed by mrxdrop on 15/04/2022 Wagered 0.00000000 Multiplier 60000x Profit 0.00000000 LIMBO: 84,995,329,595 placed by mrxdrop on 15/04/2022 Wagered 0.00000000 Multiplier 60000x Profit 0.00000000 Depends on how many bets are being made per minute. In this case you would, since it was someone else that hit it during a telegram challenge, you would need to estimate the number of players trying to hit it to figure out how many bets per minute. Luckily for you it's a provably fair system, with a little effort you can figure out how the whole thing works and test it whenever you want so you know there isn't any funny business going on. https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview You didn't capture what he's trying to say. Take a deeper look into it. These bets were made 3 minutes apart. They both got a 102527.43x multiplier down to the decimal. Don't even try to act like that isn't suspicious. They had the same result down to the .43
ikilic Posted April 16, 2022 Author #5 Posted April 16, 2022 47 minutes ago, dupeddonk said: LIMBO: 84,995,329,595 placed by mrxdrop on 15/04/2022 Wagered 0.00000000 Multiplier 60000x Profit 0.00000000 LIMBO: 84,995,329,595 placed by mrxdrop on 15/04/2022 Wagered 0.00000000 Multiplier 60000x Profit 0.00000000 Depends on how many bets are being made per minute. In this case you would, since it was someone else that hit it during a telegram challenge, you would need to estimate the number of players trying to hit it to figure out how many bets per minute. Luckily for you it's a provably fair system, with a little effort you can figure out how the whole thing works and test it whenever you want so you know there isn't any funny business going on. https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview This might sound paranoid but are you turning a blind eye to the obvious here on purpose? 27 minutes ago, chastin said: You didn't capture what he's trying to say. Take a deeper look into it. These bets were made 3 minutes apart. They both got a 102527.43x multiplier down to the decimal. Don't even try to act like that isn't suspicious. They had the same result down to the .43 Exactly what i am saying. Thanks.
dupeddonk Posted April 16, 2022 #6 Posted April 16, 2022 24 minutes ago, ikilic said: This might sound paranoid but are you turning a blind eye to the obvious here on purpose? It's not obvious when you only post the bet ID without any other explanation... I thought you were talking about the fact two 60kx hit within a few minutes. I agree there's likely something wrong after seeing the 102527.43 for both bets. I suspect that the actual result was not what was displayed. There have been similar buggy issues in the past. If anyone knows either player that made either bet, ask them to change their seed so we can verify the outcome.
ikilic Posted April 16, 2022 Author #7 Posted April 16, 2022 1 hour ago, dupeddonk said: It's not obvious when you only post the bet ID without any other explanation... I thought you were talking about the fact two 60kx hit within a few minutes. I agree there's likely something wrong after seeing the 102527.43 for both bets. I suspect that the actual result was not what was displayed. There have been similar buggy issues in the past. If anyone knows either player that made either bet, ask them to change their seed so we can verify the outcome. Alright i see where you‘re coming from. In my defense the title says look at the id and not at the multiplier. Lets just say my laziness to elaborate and your laziness to check further became a classic communication error. Proper communication really is hard. i do not know the players. a display error makes sense since everything on this website is buggy but its hard for me to buy that shit at that point. for me it always made no sense that there are so many bugs on this website even though they make an unbelievable amount of Money daily. It makes more sense to me that its easy to hide a fire if there is smoke everyday and everywhere if you know what i am saying. I still want to know the odds for that to happen if anyone can help out. but of course i would also like to verify the outcome even though its hard for me to buy that shit anymore.
ikilic Posted April 16, 2022 Author #8 Posted April 16, 2022 Hello, today a friend of mine sent me this as well: ODDS?! this is not possible. the guy changed his seeds as well. any verify pro here?
Primequin Posted April 16, 2022 #11 Posted April 16, 2022 Amagine if there was at least 1$ bet on this. Wowq
Moderator maverick528 Posted April 16, 2022 Moderator #13 Posted April 16, 2022 Maybe you should check the way the limbo multiplier is calculated to understand that on very high multipliers, higher than 100,000 for example, the numbers are sparsely populated. This means that the next possible multiplier after 102527.43X is NOT 102527.44X , although this may sound counter intuitive. As the possible multipliers at this level jump in discrete steps, its is very possible to get exactly the same number several times. If Im not wrong, the max multiplier that can possibly happen in Limbo is 16946682.83X. And the next lowest multiplier is 16881399.29X .
ikilic Posted April 16, 2022 Author #14 Posted April 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, maverick528 said: Maybe you should check the way the limbo multiplier is calculated to understand that on very high multipliers, higher than 100,000 for example, the numbers are sparsely populated. This means that the next possible multiplier after 102527.43X is NOT 102527.44X , although this may sound counter intuitive. As the possible multipliers at this level jump in discrete steps, its is very possible to get exactly the same number several times. If Im not wrong, the max multiplier that can possibly happen in Limbo is 16946682.83X. And the next lowest multiplier is 16881399.29X . this sounds very vague to me. any source for me on how its calculated? also "very" possible sounds pretty overexaggerated even if the numbers are "sparsely populated" thanks for the reply.
Moderator maverick528 Posted April 16, 2022 Moderator #15 Posted April 16, 2022 It is not very vague, you just need to understand a bit of maths. The source on how this is calculated has been on the Stake website for years.
ByteMeTwice Posted April 29, 2022 #18 Posted April 29, 2022 The reason i would put this down to is that its on fun play mode. Fun play demonstrates how the game plays, payouts etc. I'm Very often wrong though. What i do believe 100% is Proviably fair is exactly the same as Santa Claus, Easter Bunny & the Tooth Fairy. It's a figment of imagination which only arrived at the same time as Crypto Casino's. A very Clever form of Smoke & Mirrors to make the average person think they're always being treated fairly. If not, they'd be using rng's like the fiat casino's do !!
dupeddonk Posted April 29, 2022 #19 Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, ByteMeTwice said: Proviably fair is exactly the same as Santa Claus, Easter Bunny & the Tooth Fairy. It's a figment of imagination which only arrived at the same time as Crypto Casino's. A very Clever form of Smoke & Mirrors to make the average person think they're always being treated fairly. If not, they'd be using rng's like the fiat casino's do !! Have you attempted to understand how provably fair works? It takes a little effort, but it's not that complicated. Probably the biggest obstacle is wrapping your head around the basics of one way hashing functions.
Royalthreesomee Posted April 29, 2022 #20 Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, dupeddonk said: Have you attempted to understand how provably fair works? It takes a little effort, but it's not that complicated. Probably the biggest obstacle is wrapping your head around the basics of one way hashing functions. Is this your full time job?
LimboXhunter Posted April 29, 2022 #21 Posted April 29, 2022 On 4/16/2022 at 11:27 AM, ikilic said: Hello, today a friend of mine sent me this as well: ODDS?! this is not possible. the guy changed his seeds as well. any verify pro here? Bro wtfk iwant to hit that max
ByteMeTwice Posted April 29, 2022 #22 Posted April 29, 2022 10 hours ago, dupeddonk said: Have you attempted to understand how provably fair works? It takes a little effort, but it's not that complicated. Probably the biggest obstacle is wrapping your head around the basics of one way hashing functions. If you want to believe in proviably fair, that's you prerogative.. My personal belief is that it's made up gobbledeegook, devised by Crypto-casino's at a time when something was needed to legitimize crypto gambling. If I'm wrong, fair dues, but what other reason to diverge from RNG's which have a proven record of being random. No other proof of fairness required, why such a big deal to ensure everyone knows about (so called) proviable fairness. Why no Live you-tube videos from casino owners to demonstrate exactly how this works by showing the before and after in complete transparency ? Seen a few, but always errors with hash's that don't exist etc. But haven't seen one that can convince me more than the Miracle on 34th Street !
ikilic Posted April 29, 2022 Author #23 Posted April 29, 2022 lol true i also cant open the bets anymore! funny
Sk8erSpanky Posted April 29, 2022 #24 Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghostnipple said: oh he's not so bad XD Is it just me or is anybody else having difficulty checking these bets onsite. I wanted to see the nonce for both, but I can't access the bet details. Add this to the list of suspicious $}*|> on stake. Lol its gotten so out of hand you cant even begin to make this stuff up lol
Snickers Posted April 29, 2022 #25 Posted April 29, 2022 If this was some legit stuff, why are the bets suddenly gone from the site? Cant see them if I try to check both. Only fuels the suspicion.
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