Stake does not back/care about their players. Please read!

[edph2020]

sad story.

[jerrahmaya]

1 hour ago, oboed said:

 But it doesn’t take a genius to recognize and that a billion dollar casino and sports book should not be “losing connection” during matches that previously reporting flawless and if they do it certainly shouldn’t be on the users fault which is how they make it seem when they point to their TOS. It really sucks and is unfortunate but @jungle has said the same thing. If we spent hundreds of thousands on a book who simply can’t throw their hands up and say the fucked up or what they will do to fix this from happening in the future. Then what are we doing? Truthfully. Stake brags about their transparency, their experience and all of this is missing the mark on it. But I appreciate the sympathy.

IMO , there is nothing for stake to fix.

These odds, especially for live betting, are provided by another company/companies who are then in turn provided the real time live stats by another company/companies who in turn employ local people to visit matches

 

My best guess to what happened would be the person who was logging live stats lost his connection or something else happened

Generating odds , especially live odds is whole different ball game then just operating a sportsbook. 

If you want , u can research how live soccer odds are made and how live stats are collected , especially for the leagues that are not top tier european

[thejunespirit]

2 minutes ago, jerrahmaya said:

My best guess to what happened would be the person who was logging live stats lost his connection or something else happened

Generating odds , especially live odds is whole different ball game then just operating a sportsbook. 

If you want , u can research how live soccer odds are made and how live stats are collected , especially for the leagues that are not top tier european

What you're saying might be relevant if this was a Portuguese third division match or something (which I've collected live stats for with SportRadar) but this is a Liga MX game being broadcast live in numerous territories and whose feed did not break on reputable books.

[oboed]

2 hours ago, thejunespirit said:

What you're saying might be relevant if this was a Portuguese third division match or something (which I've collected live stats for with SportRadar) but this is a Liga MX game being broadcast live in numerous territories and whose feed did not break on reputable books.

!!!! DING DING DING !!! Didn’t see any other interruptions on other books or reported issues with this match. 

2 hours ago, jerrahmaya said:

IMO , there is nothing for stake to fix.

These odds, especially for live betting, are provided by another company/companies who are then in turn provided the real time live stats by another company/companies who in turn employ local people to visit matches

 

My best guess to what happened would be the person who was logging live stats lost his connection or something else happened

Generating odds , especially live odds is whole different ball game then just operating a sportsbook. 

If you want , u can research how live soccer odds are made and how live stats are collected , especially for the leagues that are not top tier european

I get that. And trust me I know it’s a lot to manage all these lines and generating odds. But I just don’t feel bad for a billion dollar casino. They’re not running a 2 man operation. I’m not really understanding the narrative that a lot of people (not you) have had where stake is still this small casino that has errors like this happens and it’s just ok and normal or out of their control. Money for celebrity endorsements and streamers but no money or resources to fix fundamental issues. 

3 hours ago, thejunespirit said:

Nothing to boast about, their license is as shaky as they come and they know that better than anyone. Completely understand your perspective on this issue and would feel aggrieved too but it's an important reminder of how unreliable Stake is and how much risk there is in comparison to a book with a legitimate license. Same goes for other crypto casinos but Stake has a certain level of arrogance over the others, they seem to think they're untouchable.

This is also why I’m not giving up on spreading the story. The moneys gone but this dodgy licensed off shore casino has gone off the rails. The bigger they are the harder they fall is the classic expression. And in this case they will fall at their own hand. 

[crybabies101]

9 hours ago, oboed said:

Do you want me to point to you like 100 other things in their ToS that are shady or obscurely written? Lol. You point to their ToS like it’s written in stone and everything on their is 100% correct and stand up rules. It’s not. 
 

I’m glad you observed that I am an experienced player and I’ve been around the block. I just lost on a really bad beat not that long ago that would have been a payout of over 500k and I didn’t even care about that. But with that being said, I’ve played at MULTIPLE books including Land books, bookies, and crypto casinos. And I have never seen such a blatant error on their end that was completely brushed under the rug. Like jungle said, what’s your motivation to come here and defend them? Do they line your pockets? Don’t think so. On top of that, you think this is acceptable business practices for a billion dollar corporation? DK and FD are so much smaller compared to Stake and they even own up to their mistakes and errors (with few of them ever occurring) posting this story I’ve heard 100x more shady stake stories than I’ve heard in the past. I’ve been a loyal user for 2 years now and I’ve NEVER had an issue with Stake truthfully. 
 

you’re right though. If I don’t like it don’t play here and I WONT. I have no issues with their casino side that I will gladly continue to use but as for sports Bets? Absolutely not. The only person who’s said it’s embarrassing is you lol. And it’s always who cares or no big deal till your on the receiving end of this and then your name will actually suit you well. 

6 out of 10 for the cry monologue, not a bad effort. 
 

 

[dupeddonk]

9 hours ago, thejunespirit said:

What you're saying might be relevant if this was a Portuguese third division match or something (which I've collected live stats for with SportRadar) but this is a Liga MX game being broadcast live in numerous territories and whose feed did not break on reputable books.

Are you implying that the provider did something shady by not offering OP a cashout because he was playing at Stake?  Like they knew the outcome of the final game before hand or something?

Honestly can't think of any other reason they would intentionally not offer OP the opportunity to pay massive juice on $100k+ of equity.

I mean it sounds like OP would've been willing to burn 30% or more of his value to lock in the win.  That's what a book likes to see.

[madmaxx3]

im glad you posted your story op as it helps me realize that stake really doesnt care for the loyal customer. ive had issue with slots where i wasnt getting paid for wins. i sent screenshot, screen recordings, and every thing support asked of me. it was all in black and white for them to see without any doubts. then suddenly the bet history for that slot  mysteriously dissappears and im told " well sorry, the provider informed us that there was no problem" basically a fuck you very much. i was actually thinking the other day that if stake is a billion dollar company, and very recently celebrated the billionth bet placed, and payout trainwrecks "well over a mill a month" as well as all the big streamers, not to mention how much they have to pay drake, mma, ufc, and the sponsees of theirs,... with that kinda of money going out and 1 billion bets placed... average bet can in no way be more then $1. seems pretty clear the rtp cant be much more then 5% and any decent big win will be taken from the player due to "technical difficulties" or staight up cheating. because ive read now from at least 100 different accounts that all big bets lose and the minute you drop to some insignificant bet size you magically hit then. or vice versa and when you up your bet and go big suddenly you cant win any more bets. stake starts to loook pretty damn shady. its a good thing their are so many little ass kissers to run to their defense every chance they get. maybe the brown nose crew recieve a higher rtp percentage worked into the deal??

[majikoins69]

Typical