yo310 Posted April 1, 2023 #1 Posted April 1, 2023 i swear this place has these Originals labeled wrong.. that shit is a 99% house edge with 1% RTP... i have hundred of graphs that look just like this... i swear i will not deposit here anymore.. im sick of this shit... congrats on losing loyal players with your bullshit stake
Robetallberto Posted April 1, 2023 #2 Posted April 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, yo310 said: i swear this place has these Originals labeled wrong.. that shit is a 99% house edge with 1% RTP... i have hundred of graphs that look just like this... i swear i will not deposit here anymore.. im sick of this shit... congrats on losing loyal players with your bullshit stake Keep calm bud
Sinsemilla Posted April 1, 2023 #3 Posted April 1, 2023 do you even know the length of a seed and how many "spins" the rtp is calculated on ? What do you expect in 1000 spins bruh.
yo310 Posted April 1, 2023 Author #4 Posted April 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, Sinsemilla said: do you even know the length of a seed and how many "spins" the rtp is calculated on ? What do you expect in 1000 spins bruh. lol you make it seem like ive only dropped 1000 balls ever i have over 700k wagered on originals
Ebitcoin1985 Posted April 1, 2023 #5 Posted April 1, 2023 33 minutes ago, Sinsemilla said: do you even know the length of a seed and how many "spins" the rtp is calculated on ? What do you expect in 1000 spins bruh. Please don't be a mouthpiece for Stake. any honest person knows that the proveably fair system is likely manipulated. like example I wager for 2 hours on Keno placing .50 wagers with 10squares on hard. my balance has ups and downs but overall slowly moves upwards then the second I up the bet from .50 to say $2 dollar after building $50 up to $180 at .50 cent wagers. I increase to $2 and I lose every single bet except for 2 or 3 3.5x until my entire balance is gone in 5min. This has happened with a frequency that by statistical facts would be impossible in a proveably fair system without manipulation. If stake wanted to really show their proveably fair system was as advertised. they'd let a independent 3rd party conduct random monthly audits on the code. Because guess what everyone a server seed can be manipulated the entire time that you are placing bets then upon you changing your seed the client seed you set is then attached to the manipulated server seed Then when you go and verify your bets it seems fair. Because when u enter both seeds the results match what you got. Unknown to you that that is only the case because server outcome was manipulated the whole time then at end your client see was linked to server seed Now I'm not saying this is what stake does. Im only saying the system seems manipulated and this is how it could be done and still maintain fair appearance and I'm far from the only person that thinks something isn't right. Will stake ever allow 3rd party audits on the code to show 100% transparency and increase player trust ? who knows??
SatryBaal Posted April 2, 2023 #7 Posted April 2, 2023 16 hours ago, yo310 said: i swear this place has these Originals labeled wrong.. that shit is a 99% house edge with 1% RTP... i have hundred of graphs that look just like this... i swear i will not deposit here anymore.. im sick of this shit... congrats on losing loyal players with your bullshit stake What multiplier were you chasing mate ?
Rismane Posted April 2, 2023 #9 Posted April 2, 2023 18 hours ago, yo310 said: i swear this place has these Originals labeled wrong.. that shit is a 99% house edge with 1% RTP... i have hundred of graphs that look just like this... i swear i will not deposit here anymore.. im sick of this shit... congrats on losing loyal players with your bullshit stake did u know what a House Edge about?? lol
v1rtu0s Posted April 2, 2023 #10 Posted April 2, 2023 41 minutes ago, Rismane said: did u know what a House Edge about?? lol This has nothing to do with House Edge, this is due to Variance. So kindly get the fuck out of this thread, if you have no idea what you are talking about. House edge wenn Wagering around 240$ would be 1% e.g 2.40$ , so on average he would expect to lose 2,40$ not his whole stack. He lost his stack because Plinko is a high variance game, in order to expect something close to the advertised RTP one would at least need one of every game event (every multiplier hit at least once). The chance of hitting the 1000x on Plinko is 0.5^16*2 (1 in 32768). Obviously, the probability of NOT hitting this gameevent in 1000 balls, is quite high (98.511%) So you can't possibly expect the RTP to be anything close. One should criticize Stake for not explaining better what RTP really means, and what exactly variance is. This is their whole secret of success: people falsely believing their originals are somewhat "predictable" or offering a fair rate of return, they do not. And that's because of variance. Don't play originals, at least Slots offer nice effects and stuff.
Tokai2021 Posted April 2, 2023 #12 Posted April 2, 2023 Each game has a Return to Player (RTP) percentage that can be found within the game's information or help window. This represents the expected percentage of stakes that will be returned to players over the course of a statistically significant sample of play (generally one million spins).
DEGEN247 Posted April 2, 2023 #14 Posted April 2, 2023 3 hours ago, v1rtu0s said: This has nothing to do with House Edge, this is due to Variance. So kindly get the fuck out of this thread, if you have no idea what you are talking about. House edge wenn Wagering around 240$ would be 1% e.g 2.40$ , so on average he would expect to lose 2,40$ not his whole stack. He lost his stack because Plinko is a high variance game, in order to expect something close to the advertised RTP one would at least need one of every game event (every multiplier hit at least once). The chance of hitting the 1000x on Plinko is 0.5^16*2 (1 in 32768). Obviously, the probability of NOT hitting this gameevent in 1000 balls, is quite high (98.511%) So you can't possibly expect the RTP to be anything close. One should criticize Stake for not explaining better what RTP really means, and what exactly variance is. This is their whole secret of success: people falsely believing their originals are somewhat "predictable" or offering a fair rate of return, they do not. And that's because of variance. Don't play originals, at least Slots offer nice effects and stuff. eddie isnt gonna fuk u relax
dejanbg Posted April 2, 2023 #15 Posted April 2, 2023 23 hours ago, yo310 said: i swear this place has these Originals labeled wrong.. that shit is a 99% house edge with 1% RTP... i have hundred of graphs that look just like this... i swear i will not deposit here anymore.. im sick of this shit... congrats on losing loyal players with your bullshit stake House edge is more than 99% because u will lose all your deposit plus other bonuses
Rismane Posted April 8, 2023 #17 Posted April 8, 2023 On 4/2/2023 at 9:43 PM, v1rtu0s said: This has nothing to do with House Edge, this is due to Variance. So kindly get the fuck out of this thread, if you have no idea what you are talking about. House edge wenn Wagering around 240$ would be 1% e.g 2.40$ , so on average he would expect to lose 2,40$ not his whole stack. He lost his stack because Plinko is a high variance game, in order to expect something close to the advertised RTP one would at least need one of every game event (every multiplier hit at least once). The chance of hitting the 1000x on Plinko is 0.5^16*2 (1 in 32768). Obviously, the probability of NOT hitting this gameevent in 1000 balls, is quite high (98.511%) So you can't possibly expect the RTP to be anything close. One should criticize Stake for not explaining better what RTP really means, and what exactly variance is. This is their whole secret of success: people falsely believing their originals are somewhat "predictable" or offering a fair rate of return, they do not. And that's because of variance. Don't play originals, at least Slots offer nice effects and stuff. its true with what u explain, im just asking to the poster about House edge cause he mix the 1% house edge with RTP thats why im asking him
Dcspride Posted April 8, 2023 #20 Posted April 8, 2023 Too many stake ass kissers here. Stop playing casino games at stake. Stake has gone to shit now.
galili Posted April 8, 2023 #21 Posted April 8, 2023 It's not right to criticize something in the subject of statitics based on sample of 1K events especially if youu were playing risk high. I'm not defending the algoo, but i'm saying the way you are analyzing this doesn't make sense based on how statistics works
Jeebus Posted April 8, 2023 #22 Posted April 8, 2023 RTP is usually based on 1,000,000 spins. Just imagine it like this. If one person wins 20k, there must be 210 people losing $100 each. In simple words. I agree that some providers mainpulate RTP, because there is no supervision whatsoever, and those few "regulators" which exist are living of the money from providers snd have conflict of interest. Now, it's up to each of us to believe or not believe in what they say.
rejaksimati92 Posted April 8, 2023 #25 Posted April 8, 2023 On 4/2/2023 at 1:09 PM, Langggila said: Too difficult
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